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Tim Trono's Branded has just been released and, having done some reading up on it, it sounds very similar to Jason Palter's Third Degree Burn. I've had TDB on the back burner for a while now and Branded comes in at roughly the same price so I've had a look at it. I think TDB sounds better, largely due to the fact that the spectator can name any card, whereas Branded requires the forcing of one of three cards. But Branded sounds easier to perform as the gimmick is built-in to the lighter (I don't think this is exposure as this information is stated in the product description) and unlike TDB does not require the performer to "work the magic" with his hand in his pocket. What do others think?

I had third degree burn and I didn't like the pocket rummaging aspect, I think I could easily do without the freely named card for all the work it takes to memorise how to get the right card quickly, and the fact that your hand is in your pocket. I like the idea of it being attached to the lighter (which is beyond suspicion I think).

But really that makes this the same as Pyro Perception, albeit with a couple of handy tweaks.

Paul Wilson's card at any number force would be ideal for this, it seems totally fair.

Yeah, the "pocket rummaging" did concern me a little. I just noticed this in the description for Branded, which made me chuckle...

...No more public displays of affection...

Simple. Jack Kent Tillar devised the blister trick. He endorses 'Branded'. He does not endorse other, similar products.

I think that, if you're going to buy one of these effects, you should get the one that credits (and is approved by) the creator.

agree with timer...i have the blister book, and i've ordered branded...just out of curiousity more than anything..

when i bend a coin, it warms up and sometimes it leaves a little blister on my finger afterwards...

i finally got round to watching Branded - you are limited in your choice of card...so its not any card named, you will have to verbally or physically force specific cards...but you do get a choice of 12 cards to use...

clearly explained dvd - by greg wilson...he shows you a card force, but really you should know a few within a couple of months of card work, so idont blame them for not showing more...

pocket management is explained, how to ditch anything if you are being burned...ho ho ho...

the imprints themselves are very clear, and just a tiny bit painful for my dainty fingers...and i discovered a way to get two lots of cards on both hands at once...

the gimmick itself fits around two different sized bic lighters...and are black...

it also lets you produce normal shaped blister(s) too...

the main difference is that you are transforming two normal blisters into two odd blisters...well, if you want to anyway...

the dvd shows greg performing this live in the streets to various people too...those crazy americans and their reactions!

i have always wondered why TDB is seen to be far better than versions where a force is needed.
Surely if the magician does his or her job properly the spectator shouldn't think that the chosen card has been forced anyway.

I suppose the only real advantage is one on complete impromptu-ness (that's a new word) although if you cant get a particular card to a forcing position mid routine then maybe one would need to go back to the drawing board.

I might add I don't own any such card blister type effects so I'm probably completely wrong

Farlsborough wrote:Paul Wilson's card at any number force would be ideal for this, it seems totally fair.

Where is this available Farls?

The thing I really like about TDB is that you don't even need a deck of cards - you just need to get the spec to merely think of a card (and those who have seen me handle a deck of cards know why I like not having to use them!!)

Monkey came out with a great routine that he posted here somewhere (search for it you lazy buggers - it is worth the hunt!) which eliminates further the need to use a deck of cards.

Couldn't you do the Branded effect without a deck of cards, as well? As I'm thinking about it, I think it could be wonderfully adapted to Greg Arce's Scorched Routine.

excellent thinking as usual demitri...

i was thinking of taking the pain a little, and with a brief lick of the thumb, extinguish a lit match instead as you look into the specs eyes...

rubbing the carbon into the fingers might be quite nice theatrically too..

Whilst I don't have branded, I have looked at it, and decided that I'm more than happy with my Third Degree Burn, as is.

I'm not entirely sure what this 'pocket-rummaging' that's being discussed is all about, either...sure, I have my hands in my pockets during the routine, but I certainly don't feel any need to 'rummage'.

As long as the practice has been put it, it takes all of about three seconds to do the business, and I've never had a spec yet look at my trousers - they have no clue what's coming, so shy would they?

No, as far as I'm concerned, being totally propless (unless you count a lighter) is the big bonus of TDB - the specs have a completely fair free choice, and the 'work' is undetectable.

TDB all the way, for me

Rob

Totally Mental wrote:The thing I really like about TDB is that you don't even need a deck of cards - you just need to get the spec to merely think of a card (and those who have seen me handle a deck of cards know why I like not having to use them!!)

Monkey came out with a great routine that he posted here somewhere (search for it you lazy buggers - it is worth the hunt!) which eliminates further the need to use a deck of cards.

As I do not frequent here much. I dont know which thread you are talking about and who 'monkey' is.

Could you please link me?

Thanks

Lenoir wrote:

Farlsborough wrote:Paul Wilson's card at any number force would be ideal for this, it seems totally fair.

Where is this available Farls?

think it may be this from

http://www.rpaulwilson.com/circleofconfidence2.htm

Martini
The spectator names any card. They name any number from one to fifty two. Guess where there card is? Paul’s amusing presentation brings this powerhouse effect within anyone’s reach. When the time is right, the spectator deals to the cards and finds their thought of card exactly where they wanted it! Absolutely no sleight of hand - just a devilishly simple approach. This is one of Paul’s favorite routines for any audience.

Difficulty: Beginner to Intermediate

$5.00

Got it a while back thanks, old post!