Help with my own trick (just a little help ;) You'll see.)

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Help with my own trick (just a little help ;) You'll see.)

Postby I Have A Bad Forum Name » May 10th, '08, 18:46



So I'm halfway through my own trick, and got the format down. But, I'm stuck on how to show the spectator: that the deck has not got the card, after they have chosen their card. Maybe palming? I don't know. Please help?

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Postby queen of clubs » May 10th, '08, 19:03

I'm not sure I fully understand the question.

The best way to show the spectator that the card isn't in the deck is for the card to not be in the deck, but I suspect you mean a way of doing this while it is still there?

What you could do is control their selection to the top, turn the deck face-up and just before you ribbon-spread the cards on a table, side-jog the selection so that it rests under the spread while the other 51 pips are showing.

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Postby sleightlycrazy » May 10th, '08, 19:12

If a table is available, I think Queen of Clubs's idea is excellent.

Another possibility, if you do not have a table around, is to control it to the top of the deck and spread through it face up- without spreading to the last card.

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Postby HenryHoudini » May 10th, '08, 20:23

I don't think palming would be too bad. You could palm off the card then let the spectator look through the deck all they want to show the card's not there.

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Postby IAIN » May 10th, '08, 21:20

if you have a table, you can lap it...or top palm it away...

you could even d/l it, show the indifferent card, then push off the rest of cards face up onto the d/l...

or burn it...

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Postby HenryHoudini » May 10th, '08, 21:49

abraxus wrote:if you have a table, you can lap it...or top palm it away...

you could even d/l it, show the indifferent card, then push off the rest of cards face up onto the d/l...

or burn it...


But what would the point of a dl be if you're about to fan out the rest of the deck? I find a dl only works properly if you only have to show the top card, but picture this.

"Okay, the top card is not the ten of spades, so I'll put that down here. Now, none of these are either, so the ten of spades is not in the deck."
Seems a little suspicious to me.

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Postby John Freeman » May 10th, '08, 21:52

A littlr bit of wax goes a long way :wink:

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Postby queen of clubs » May 10th, '08, 21:56

John Freeman wrote:A littlr bit of wax goes a long way :wink:


Especially if your ear explodes.

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Postby IAIN » May 10th, '08, 22:10

HenryHoudini wrote:
abraxus wrote:if you have a table, you can lap it...or top palm it away...

you could even d/l it, show the indifferent card, then push off the rest of cards face up onto the d/l...

or burn it...


But what would the point of a dl be if you're about to fan out the rest of the deck? I find a dl only works properly if you only have to show the top card, but picture this.

"Okay, the top card is not the ten of spades, so I'll put that down here. Now, none of these are either, so the ten of spades is not in the deck."
Seems a little suspicious to me.


i didnt mention fanning the deck?! d/l show the face, then turn the pack over and continue dealing the rest of the deck ontop of the d/l...

just say "count with me...1 (d/l - then continue with the rest of the deck) - 2, 3...."

no fanning needed and will look very fair...

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Postby HenryHoudini » May 10th, '08, 22:26

Ah, I see what you mean now. Thanks for the clarification. :lol:

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Postby thebigcheese » May 11th, '08, 08:43

You could have them replace it and side steal it straight away; then ask them to put it back: when they say they have, then say "you havent, look" and hand out the deck for examination...

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Postby Tubbycranker » May 11th, '08, 15:00

[quoteJohn Freeman wrote:
A littlr bit of wax goes a long way


Especially if your ear explodes.[/quote]

I almost choked on my coffee reading that! Nice one!

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Postby Andyb » May 12th, '08, 08:08

How abot using a ribbon spread with the zenneth allignment move - you can then close the spread and give te cards to the spectator without having to do anything else as the card is loaded!
A bit like the fan idea but leaving the card in the centre of the deck!

Or you could just cop the card as hand the deck for examination - a bold move that normally flies by anyone!
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Postby Wills » May 12th, '08, 11:08

Like has already been said a palm, side steal or simply hide the card under another at the bottom of the deck. These would be best for impromptu effects.

A bit of double sided tape could also help you out if you like.

Or a little idea that hasn't been mentioned yet- Is to use a little gimmick were you glue a short card to an ordinary card at one end. You can then riffle force to the card behind the short card, ribbon spread the deck and the card will be gone. Very simple but effective.

Can anybody please help me? I'm having terrible problems controlling my streetmagic- I can't walk down a street without turning into a pub.
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Postby bmat » May 12th, '08, 16:29

If after the card is returned to the deck the spectator is not going to touch the deck then simply control the card to the top. Turn the deck over and spread the cards without showing the top card.

Otherwise palm the card and if you are nervous about that use a gamblers cop. Either way card is gone and the spectators can go through the deck themselves.

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