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Hello,

Im currently performing a nice little muscle reading effect using a persons personal belongs etc(I shant go into the details) but I tell who out of 3 people is holding someones ring etc!

What I wanted was a nudge to some further reading on this please...so I can do more effects like this?

Cheers

There's something in Corinda and Banachek's PSI series DVDs (volume 3, I think) but it's far easier to fake it...

Tomo wrote:There's something in Corinda and Banachek's PSI series DVDs (volume 3, I think) but it's far easier to fake it...

Here Here!

No faking thankyou

Magic Chris wrote:No faking thankyou

And thank you, glad you have the guts to actual LEARN things.

MR isn't that hard to do and the Banachek DVD along side the book on Psychophysiological Thought Reading are THE BEST resources I've seen available to the general market. Then, as to establishing a routine that will help you as you develop this skill, I'll suggest the Shantz book "Contact Mind Reading" available through Hades Publications and most of your older brick & mortar magic shops.

MR is something that is quite closely related to a "knack" common to the males in my family... seems that my father's step-dad taught him and his brothers all how to dowse -- water witchery. In my case, the old guy started me off as a child playing with pendulums and it grew out from there.

BTW... Pendulum work is another place to look. I know Richard Webster has a book out on it and I believe Ron Martin does as well. Though I consider him a God, don't bother with the suspended pendulum routine offered by Bob Cassidy just yet. But, there are numerous non-magic related books out there on working with Pendulums that you may want to look into. Sometimes it's just better to learn such a technique "blindly"... without a head full of skeptical hog-swallow being spoon fed to you at the same time.

Anywho... hope this helps you out. Feel free to ask me questions should you have any.

MR is something that is quite closely related to a "knack"

Yes I too have this natural ability to read folk this way too!

As for pendulum, am already a big user of this medium.

Cheers

I found a single line (a part of the instructions to give to the spectator) in Fitzkee's book Contact Mindreading Expanded (I think...) to be very helpful.

To save you a few bucks, since the rest of the information is in the Banachek sources, it's to have the audience member 'feel' themselves doing the action as opposed to simply thinking the direction words.

As for more effects, the Banachek book and dvd are great.

there's a dvd coming out apparently from a french guy, cant remember his name - this year, anyway - he has some kind of extra special technique!

anyway - there's loads, try lybrary and trickshop for hellstromism and similar...

but, if you're naturally good at it - what more do you need other than practice?

what more do you need other than practice?

was looking for different techniques etc....just readings and backgrounds, peoples experiances and tips to look for, to help you heighten your ability, cheers for the dvd heads up x

A good introduction is

Entertaining With Contact Mindreading by S. Edward Dexter, An oldie but it gives you the basics, simply.

The best book I have on the subject, as it really trains you is, Practical Contact Mindreading by Dr. Edward R. Schatz; published by Micky Hades, Canada. This is totally practical and uncluttered.

There are very old books by Nelson but they have been topped by more modern reading.

Mindreading & Telepathy by Erik Jan Hanussen $49:95..H & R Books, USA ( Richard Hatch)

Finally there is the book by Satori..Making Contact.
I booked him for a lecture a few years back and in spite of being ill on the night, he was remarkable with CMR; even finding a cheque, placed high up behind a curtain in a window.

Allen Tipton

Allen Tipton wrote::D A good introduction is

Entertaining With Contact Mindreading by S. Edward Dexter, An oldie but it gives you the basics, simply.

The best book I have on the subject, as it really trains you is, Practical Contact Mindreading by Dr. Edward R. Schatz; published by Micky Hades, Canada. This is totally practical and uncluttered.

There are very old books by Nelson but they have been topped by more modern reading.

Mindreading & Telepathy by Erik Jan Hanussen $49:95..H & R Books, USA ( Richard Hatch)

Finally there is the book by Satori..Making Contact.
I booked him for a lecture a few years back and in spite of being ill on the night, he was remarkable with CMR; even finding a cheque, placed high up behind a curtain in a window.

Allen Tipton

I love most all of Dexter's contributions and Schatz is the one I was thinking of (I misspelled his name previously). Nelson's HELLSTROMISM is a classic and one of the earlier "bibles" to MR work and I've never heard a negative thing said on the Satori material... not family with the Hanussen book but I need to take a look at it in that I'm employing materials associated with him and Messing (thanks to Bob Cassidy's evil influence)

Speaking of which... a study on the life & times of Wolf Messing might be in order when it comes to such, not to mention Cassidy's notes on "MESSING AROUND" which is a brilliant treatise if you're looking for ways to "accent" your MR demonstrations.

I will warn you against one video I know exist and one I think is also out there... let's just say if the names of Blair Robertson or Jonathon Royal are even remotely connected to the product, it's best to not waste your money... same goes with anything written by Angelo Stagnaro.

Though Robertson has some limited "legit" knowledge the other two are just hustlers and idiots as far as I'm concerned (and most of the professional world); cons out to take your money by offering the world and delivering little to nothing. So be aware!

Would that be Dr Johnathan Royal Bsc?

Lawrence wrote:Would that be Dr Johnathan Royal Bsc?

That guy is genuius. I have his "There's No Such Thing As Hypnotism" DVD. When I'm sad I put it on. It makes me laugh.

Even funnier though is his How To Be A Hypnotherapist DVD. What a giggle.

My first early self training for this art was simply to use 3 wooden boxes, about 6" x 5" x 5" deep. Into one of which, a person was asked to place a personal object & close the lid. Someone else was then delegated to postition the boxes, far away from each other round the room.If you know MR you;ll know this,this makes it easier.

Then I would hold the owner's wrist & find the box containing his object.
Later when I was more confident I'd get 3 people to put their objects, one in each box, and I'd then return their box to them. Imagine the dramatic "No that is not yours.This is yours" etc., with me exchanging the boxes to build the tension. Good picture tableau as each one opened their box and said" Yes This is mine".

This was the first simple way I devised, to teach myself MR. It gave me confidence & experience, without complications. I did read the Dexter book first.

Allen Tipton

Allen Tipton

I think it was the Schatz book that has notes on a kind of parallel routine in which there were legit tests as well as "outs"... a gimmicked way of making things work. The idea was to allow you to do "the act" as you learned and developed the skill

What is important to note is that MR is something you must constantly work on and at or you loose it... years ago when I first got really vested in this bit, I was able to discern the letters people were thinking of and writing out in their imagination... it allowed me to write out the unspoken name of someone they were focused on during a Reading and trust me when I say that it put poop in their pants... since I've gotten ill however, I've just not been able to invest the time into working it in order to get that level of sensitivity back again (though I have other methods of replicating it).

I've said for years that Real Mentalists only need good Reading Skills, solid MR Technique and Billet familiarity to have a solid career. It's amazing how many legends have more or less prove that true.