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I'm not asking for an explanation or exposure, but is there any form of muscle reading that doesn't involve feeling somones pulse?

-Ben

Pulse?

Pretty much all of it...

Perhaps i was misinformed. Could you explain just a little bit more?

I'm guessing you never bought or read actual material on the subject...?

Buy a basic book on it. Allen Tipton wrote a great post on different sources to learn from.

And I'll second that it has NOTHING to do with the spec's pulse.

I just reasd some ridiculous thing on;line and believed it. I will try to get a book on it. I'm glad i checked with someone. Thanks.

-ben

This was on wikipedia, (i don't go their for magic, only for magic history) and this is what i found which confused me.
"Supposedly, by coming into physical contact with the subject, a mentalist can gain a better link with the person's mind, usually by allowing him to read more subtle reactions in the subject's motor functions, such as muscle control and heart rate."
Is this just the patter they used? I don't wanty to sound stupid, i was going to buy a book, just wanted to know what it was about. I'm not using wikipedia for my magic. So would this just be what a agician would say. I must sound so ridiculous. I'm not really new to magic or mentalism at all. I feel quite knowledgable on most of it. I'm just completely new to muscle reading. that's all. I will get a book soon.

magicmindben wrote:I just reasd some ridiculous thing on;line and believed it. I will try to get a book on it. I'm glad i checked with someone. Thanks.

-ben

There is an element of truth to this in that some Muscle Workers do use the Pulse for certain bits of "testing" but it is not the primary element involved when it comes to actually doing it.

You can learn the basic mechanics of MR in under a half-hour's time but at the same time, it requires a life-time of genuine study and practice to "perfect". Get the Banachek DVD and book on Psychophysiological Mind Reading and you'll have a foundation that goes a great deal further than most of we old timers ever dreampt possible.

magicmindben wrote:This was on wikipedia, (i don't go their for magic, only for magic history) and this is what i found which confused me.
"Supposedly, by coming into physical contact with the subject, a mentalist can gain a better link with the person's mind, usually by allowing him to read more subtle reactions in the subject's motor functions, such as muscle control and heart rate."
Is this just the patter they used? I don't wanty to sound stupid, i was going to buy a book, just wanted to know what it was about. I'm not using wikipedia for my magic. So would this just be what a agician would say. I must sound so ridiculous. I'm not really new to magic or mentalism at all. I feel quite knowledgable on most of it. I'm just completely new to muscle reading. that's all. I will get a book soon.

They've basically told you the truth but I'll repeat what I say in the above and in the other thread we have going on this topic presently... get the Banachek material!

And Magicmindben, as you are a student and I presume 'not that well off'. as well as being a beginner in MR, then get hold of

Practical Contact Mind Reading by Dr. Edward R.Schatz; published by Micky Hades, Canada. MBBP might have a copy.

It is only 46 pages long but everything in it , from the history of, to practical means is simply written. There is no clutter or deep psychological stuff..just the things you need, at this stage , to know.

1 History of MR
2 The Pro Mind Reader's Image
3 The Mind Reader's Equipment
4 Psychological Mind Reading; colours, numbers etc.
5 Cold Reading
6 The First Tests. 3 lots
7 Contact Mind Reading: 8 tests from Telling Time, to Finding a Needle to
The 'Who Dunnit Murder Mystery'.
8 Advanced Tests.
9 Indirect Contact MR
10 The Ultimate Contact MR Experiment
11 Non Contact MR
12 Blindfold MR
13 The Comedy Alarm Clock Test
14 Tips & Advice
15 Looking Ahead.

It is a good read. Now look up in this Forum., same category ..Muscle Reading. Magic Chris
Allen Tipton