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I am looking for a prop to allow me to set fire to my flash products with no visible means. Maybe just by touching it, or holding it and it suddenly bursts into flames (whilst showing my hands as empty). The closest thing I managed to find within my price range was this ''Master Flash Trick'' http://www.magicproshop.com/master-flas ... -1563.html. It sounds like a simple little device and as I am in the UK not eh states, was wndering if itl be easier to make such a thing. Does anyone have any ideas?

You might like to try Ignition Impossible from Hocus Pocus...

How close are you to your audience when performing? A TT flasher might work.

Big D

I have an old effect somewhere called Blood Feast of the Sun which uses 2 chemicals in a bowl to ignite tissue paper.

LambertClan2006 wrote:How close are you to your audience when performing? A TT flasher might work.

Big D

Closeup. As in one on one. The kind of effect Blaine gets on his street magic special as he sets a card on fire miraculously.

Okay, I've found some possible props. Which one would be best for a close up scenario and would allow me to seemingly touch objects with my finger and make them catch alight?

The tricks I found were:

Pyro Freak 2.0 - http://www.magicnevin.com/proddetail.as ... 792&cat=31


Easy Flash - http://www.magicnevin.com/proddetail.as ... ash&cat=31



Vernet flaming TT - http://www.magicnevin.com/proddetail.as ... 170&cat=31


Igniter Flash - http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/full/Magic- ... __2829.htm


Which one would be best for my situation? I'm looking for something that will allow me to seeminly catch anything on fire, not just flash paper. Obviously things which are flamable, but maybe an ordinary piece of paper.

Well, see, I don't know your situation. On the surface, this would seem to be a simple and innocuous question, but there is so much more...

What kind of clothes are you wearing? If, for example, you are wearing a shirt with long sleeves, then the answer is one thing, if you are wearing a suit jacket (or other kind of loose fitting jacket), then the answer is something different, if you are wearing a t-shirt, then the answer is completely different.

So, the first thing that you have to consider is clothing.

Next, there is nothing that you can use that is absolutely invisible in the hand. You must get the ignition system there and you must ditch the ignition system at some point.

Compare this to using a TT. "The Thumb Thing" is an excellent choice if you are willing to use a wheel and flint system and you are well practiced in the art of using a TT invisibly.

On the other hand, an electronic system is much more bulky. Somewhere, somehow, you have to have a battery (or batteries).

The real problem that guys run into when deciding on which system will work best is that they have no real experience with these things. They want to produce fire at their fingertips without considering each and every point of a performance that will effect their ability to steal the gizmo and ditch the gizmo. They are unfamiliar with wheel and flint systems as opposed to electronic ignitions (or even chemical applications in the use of making fire with no visible means).

What is your stage like? I know, you mean close up, but nevertheless you are on a stage. So, are you sitting down at a table which will allow the use of your lap as a servante? If so, then you can reasonably get away with a bulkier system. Are you standing up? Then you will need easily accessable pockets - loose fitting clothing as opposed to tight jeans and t-shirt - for stealing and ditching.

However, if you purchase any of these systems with the thought that you can openly, cleanly and slowly show your hand empty, produce fire and immediately show the hand again, openly, slowly and cleanly empty, you are going to be terribly disappointed.

Mike.

An Addendum:

I've just watched the vid for Pyro Freak 2.0 and must admit that it is a very clever system.

Less bulky than a thumb thing and electronic ignition to boot. Very good!

However, it still has to be gotten into position and it still has to be gotten rid of, so just keep in mind my last statement above if you decide to purchase this system.

Mike.

Edited in: One last thing...If you decide to purchase PF 2.0, then hope and pray that it fits properly. If it's too loose, you'll have problems. If it's too tight, you'll have problems. I would contact the supplier and see if they know whether or not the system comes with a way to custom fit the device (as it is very expensive).

Do these gimmicks work on flash products alone, or can you use them to set alight to paper or anything like that?

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Saw one of these Thursday night being demonstrated. Might be down your alley. It clips to your waste then gives you fire when you pull it, before springing back. Personally scared me.

http://www.magicbox.uk.com/shop.php/sho ... p_483.html

I forget what it is, but ill search for it, but theres a chemical that if you put it on stuff you can light it with d'lites.