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this is aimed at the more experienced board members but in response to my whassup thread I was told a lot of new effects based on old ideas etc.

Doing some digging around I see this to be true so tell me guys...

Is there really anything truly new and WOW inducing introduced to the market in the last 18 months that is actually worth buying other than to satisfy CUPS?

Marco from International Magic:

There's nothing new, just things you haven't seen yet.

Most 'new' stuff seems to have been variations rather than new stuff but few interested me enough to part with hard cash.

I know of one 'packs small, plays big' effect in the commercial pipeline which, after almost 18 months of trying it out, still excites me. It's not mine but it's a neat idea which leaves full scope for individual presentation at the same time as being truly gobsmacking. Nuf sed, await news in due course and hang on to some cash, or sell yet another kidney, to buy it !

Just released by Vernetmagic.com is a three DVD set called 'The INvisible Hand'

I hope to have mine on Saturday and will review shortly afterwards

There's a video on the web site http://www.vernetmagic.com which looks impressive.

I have found (experienced even) that I really don't "need" to buy anything I see on the shelves or read about. I have more material on hand at any given moment than most of the legends in this industry ever dreampt possible. In other words, most of us neglect to see what's right in front of our face and how entire careers and empires were built on very, very little compared to what most of us have on hand.

Makes you wonder how men like Thurston and Kellar "made it" in that there was no Royal Road or Corinda or Jim Stienmeyer... hell, there was barely a Sielbit in those days!

They taught themselves by coming up with ideas and working it out and MAKING IT WORK... many of them never had the chance to sit with another magician and talk about it let alone the arguments we see today. For that matter most magicians in those days wouldn't talk with another when it came to sharing an effect or an idea and yet, look at what came about.


When it all seems to be the same old thing it's time to start turning it into "your thing" and not what everyone else is doing. There are no books, DVDs or tapes that can show you how that part of it is done.

That does look like a good dvd, I will wait for your review.

That's a grat post Craig!

I'm finding more and more that when ever I buy something new, I excitedly read it and then think, 'is that it? But's that's just a varitation on so and so from this book or that'. My buying really has slowed down alot and I'm finding myself instead picking ideas from various different places and putting them back together to achieve what I want to achieve.

I think that when you've followed a certain area of magic for so long, you'll find that you've gone full circle and as Craid said, that's the time to start making things your own.

Of course there are some brilliant new ideas out there, it's just a case of finding them.

Craig and Lady of Mystery I totally agree. And Craig you've hit upon why I started this thread.

How about Paper Clipped by Jay Sankey? That seems to be new every couple of months or so.

ha ha ha Lawrence

You drinking tomorrow?

There's bound to be a new/cutting edge/must have/dog's danglies/award winning cap to bottle effect soon, we haven't had one of those for.....several days

I've found that "visual, piece by piece" torn and restored cards seem to have been new for ages now. And they all promise to be "workable in the real world". They're not.

Farlsborough wrote:And they all promise to be "workable in the real world". They're not.

Oh now that's not fair, they're perfectly workable as long as your spec is on the other side of your web cam

Agecroft wrote:ha ha ha Lawrence

You drinking tomorrow?

what kind of a stupid question is that!?

Mandrake wrote:There's bound to be a new/cutting edge/must have/dog's danglies/award winning cap to bottle effect soon, we haven't had one of those for.....several days

That made me snort