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Need a name for my new trick- please help!

Postby Ace of diamonds » Aug 10th, '08, 20:13



Hi all,

recently I made up a close-up card effect where a spectator chooses a card. That card is remembered and placed in the middle of the deck and is throughly shuffled in by the spectator. The deck is then handed back to the magician and the magician then goes through the deck and pulls out the ace of spades saying that it is always the most magicical card in any deck. He then clearly shows that ace and says the reason why this card is so special is because it can help him find any other card (at that point the magician flicks the card to reveal the spectator's card). The magician then explains although they have found the spectator's cad they are now missing the ace of spades because that what the card originally was (at this point the magician just waves the spectator's card to transform their card back into the ace of spades) the magician hands the ace out for examining. While the ace is checked by spectators to be a normal playing card the magician tells them that it's all well and good they took an ace it transformed into their card and it transformed back, but now they are missing the spectator's card because the ace was it but when it transfomred back their card has now gone. The magician explains that normally when a card vanishes it is in the deck somewhere (he looks at the top card to reveal a random card) he then says if it's not at the top it must be at the bottom (the magician turns the whole deck over and sees that the bottom card is not the spectator's card either) the magicican then goes onto to say that he is not going to try to look for their card anymore, instead he is going to let the spectator (he hands over the deck to the spectator who chose the card and they look carefully through the deck and no matter how hard they look they cannot find their card) the magician then says well if it's not in the deck then it must be somewher (he slowly removes his shoes with his other foot and all can see a face-down card in there) he asks any spectator to remove that card. A spectator does this and sees that the card in the shoe is their freely chosen card that dissappeared when it got transformed back into the ace of spades.

So that is the effect the trick has but I just can't think of a name. So look at what happens in the trick and reply some suitable names please. If you do not understand then look through and read it again because it might sound a bit compliacted written down like thath but in performence its really easy to understand. So please message reply with some names you think it could be called.

Thanks, James.
(P.S. Sorry for the long read)

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Postby Lenoir » Aug 10th, '08, 20:18

It doesn't particularly need a name. It can be just your revelation routine. Unless your planning on marketing the effect, I don't see a need for a name!

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Postby Ace of diamonds » Aug 10th, '08, 20:21

No, I do not plan on marketing it and the like but I would just like a catchy name for it so the spectator's can go and tell their friends saying... "We saw this guy perform this trick called...... where he made me pick a card and..........

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Postby The Magic Herring » Aug 10th, '08, 21:47

I agree with Wildcard, spectators don't remember the name of the trick, but the trick itself.
They won't tell their friends that a magician showed them a trick called so and so,
they'll say a magician showed me a trick where I picked a card and...

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Postby MagicBill » Aug 11th, '08, 00:53

You could call it 'The trick where a spectator chooses a card. That card is remembered and placed in the middle of the deck and is throughly shuffled in by the spectator. The deck is then handed back to the magician and the magician then goes through the deck and pulls out the ace of spades saying that it is always the most magicical card in any deck. He then clearly shows that ace and says the reason why this card is so special is because it can help him find any other card (at that point the magician flicks the card to reveal the spectator's card). The magician then explains although they have found the spectator's cad they are now missing the ace of spades because that what the card originally was (at this point the magician just waves the spectator's card to transform their card back into the ace of spades) the magician hands the ace out for examining. While the ace is checked by spectators to be a normal playing card the magician tells them that it's all well and good they took an ace it transformed into their card and it transformed back, but now they are missing the spectator's card because the ace was it but when it transfomred back their card has now gone. The magician explains that normally when a card vanishes it is in the deck somewhere (he looks at the top card to reveal a random card) he then says if it's not at the top it must be at the bottom (the magician turns the whole deck over and sees that the bottom card is not the spectator's card either) the magicican then goes onto to say that he is not going to try to look for their card anymore, instead he is going to let the spectator (he hands over the deck to the spectator who chose the card and they look carefully through the deck and no matter how hard they look they cannot find their card) the magician then says well if it's not in the deck then it must be somewher (he slowly removes his shoes with his other foot and all can see a face-down card in there) he asks any spectator to remove that card. A spectator does this and sees that the card in the shoe is their freely chosen card that dissappeared when it got transformed back into the ace of spades' trick.

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Postby sleightlycrazy » Aug 11th, '08, 01:16

Haha. Nice, Magicbill, nice...

I agree, there is no reason to name your trick unless you`re tryng to sell it.

A word of advice, don`t tell specs the name of tricks as you do them. To them, it`s either meaningless, or an opportunity to look it up on youtube to find out how it`s done.

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Postby queen of clubs » Aug 11th, '08, 01:20

sleightlycrazy wrote:I agree, there is no reason to name your trick unless you`re tryng to sell it.


Exactly. What kind of idiot says to a crowd "I'm now going to perform Out Of This World!"

From a spectator's point of view tricks shouldn't have names, that's why they're amazing. You don't tell somebody that the amazing, once-in-a-lifetime thing that they just witnessed is actually a marketed effect!!

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Postby Lenoir » Aug 11th, '08, 09:22

You don't tell somebody that the amazing, once-in-a-lifetime thing that they just witnessed is actually a marketed effect!!


If it was marketed and you told them the name, it would only take google and 5 seconds for them to find out where it could be bought or what it consisted of!

If it's a relatively well known card trick, it would take 5 seconds and youtube for them to learn and the magic has already gone.

Maybe spend more time trying to make the effect more amazing and impossible than worrying about a trivial name.

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Postby Ace of diamonds » Aug 11th, '08, 10:40

Thanks, for all the replys peeps. At the end of the day you are all right as long as I am not marketing the effect it need not have a name. Oh, and don't think that I tell my spectator's the trick's name because I don't but it was just if I ever shared it with one of my fellow magicians. He would then be able to able to remember the trick's name and know exactly what he needs to do.

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Postby daleshrimpton » Aug 11th, '08, 10:48

you know, one of the greatest effects of all time, is known to lays as....

"that trick where the girl gets cut into 3 bits and the magician removes her middle"


another is almost universaly known as...

( and this is a genuine quote from a layman in a pub )

" that trick where you push a red hankie into a plastic thumb, and pretend its vanished"

( Thts Not about me by the way, but some drunk who used to go into my local)

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Postby Strep » Aug 11th, '08, 12:56

daleshrimpton wrote:but some drunk who used to go into my local


Damn, that could have been me.....or most of the rest of you come to think of it

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Postby Part-Timer » Aug 11th, '08, 13:14

queen of clubs wrote:Exactly. What kind of idiot says to a crowd "I'm now going to perform Out Of This World!"


Derren Brown?

(Kind of.)

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As to a name for your trick, AoD, I agree that one isn't really needed unless you plan on selling it, but it does help to have a name for your own memory and records. For example, when I joined Psycrets, I had to come up with names for some of the effects I've come up with!

May I suggest 'Ace About Face'?

One other thing. I've noticed that you are putting a lot of not very helpful comments on a lot of threads, sometimes even bumping things that have been dead for ages. This might simply be enthusiasm, but if you're trying to boost your post count so you can get into secret areas, or to sell items, the moderators here keep a close eye on the quality as well as number of posts.

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Postby Ace of diamonds » Aug 11th, '08, 13:22

Thanks for the name suggestion that is what I want other people suggesting. Some good names so I can easily refer back to them so it will be easier to remember etc. And as for the posts I can assure you that it is not to boost my post count, but simply to given an insightful answer to the person who originally posted the topic.

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Postby bmat » Aug 11th, '08, 15:33

I agree it doesn't need a name, but I would call it George, just for the heck of it. Or I would call it card to sock or card to shoe because that is the name of the effect put out years ago by Carl Cloutier. You took a pick a card routine, added a transformation and then threw in an imposible location revelation. You have built a good routine which is exactly what you should be doing. Keep up the magic.

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Postby Ace of diamonds » Aug 11th, '08, 15:39

You summed it up perfectly that is exactly what I did first it did not include the impossible location reveal but I changed it a bit to have it go to my shoe.

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