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Postby MasterCyde » Sep 17th, '08, 01:16



Rana wrote:OZ Pearlman has a nice false riffle shuffle: I think it's in "Watch Magic", and it's an in hand shuffle.


I was just about set on the Heinstein shuffle and now this. I just saw a promo video and the riffle looks excellent. god damn

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Postby magicofthemind » Sep 17th, '08, 12:02

I've just bought "Stars of Magic" - Dai Vernon's Triumph routine is based on a false r****e. It looks workable to me - any opinions?

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Postby johnnygri » Sep 18th, '08, 14:20

For seated work at a table, I'd definitely say the Zarrow, it's just so natural. For standing work, Guy Hollingworth's air riffle (which was also invented by somebody else in parallel) is tops. It's a bit knacky, but it looks like a normal air riffle followed by a single cut. When performing a fair air riffle I think it a good idea to follow with a cut in the same manner (where suitable), so you can maintain consistency between the fair and the not so fair.

I learned the Zarrow from Bill Malone's 'On The Loose' volume 1 DVD, a very thorough and easy to follow explanation. Alternatively, Dai Vernon's More Inner Secrets of Card Magic has an explanation of the Zarrow, but IMHO Bill Malone's explanation is much easier to follow correctly.

Guy's is in his Drawing Room Deceptions book, and also on the 'Routines' VHS (I think). Both of these can prove a little difficult to find though, especially his video (though I did see it in a bargain bin at International Magic, London recently).

If none of the above proves to be suitable, there's a VERY simple but convincing false overhand shuffle on Eugene Burger's 'Exploring Magical Presentation' DVD. It's not quite as convincing as the others I've mentioned, but it's definitely worth looking into - plus that DVD is a good source of advice on presenting your tricks.

Hope that helps.

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Postby queen of clubs » Sep 18th, '08, 17:43

Rana wrote:OZ Pearlman has a nice false riffle shuffle: I think it's in "Watch Magic", and it's an in hand shuffle.


The beauty of Oz Pearlman's false in the hands riffle is that the cards do genuinely get interlaced and waterfalled, so there's absolutely no way people can accuse you of faking or miming faroing them. It's magnificent and it is indeed taught on his DVD Watch Magic.

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Postby johnnygri » Sep 18th, '08, 17:46

Ah, that sounds very similar to the Guy Hollingworth shuffle I mentioned.

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Postby MasterCyde » Sep 18th, '08, 20:00

well, I'm confused. I only want one in the hands riffle for now and I just don't know which is the best.

So it's Guy Hollingworth, OZ Pearlman or Karl Hein.

Does anyone know all three and can say which they prefer?

Sorry, I really wanna make sure I get the best one for now.

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Postby The Magic Herring » Sep 18th, '08, 20:17

Actually I'm gonna have to go with the Oz Pearlman version, it's bloody difficult, but it's probably the cleanest false riffle you'll ever learn, they can burn your hands and still not see anything fishy.

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Postby dimabbq » Sep 18th, '08, 20:53

I have played around with all these false in the hands riffles. I usually use Green's when there isn't much heat and to strengthen an effect.

I also love Oz Pearlman's on Watch Magic but i don't do his Triumph. The shuffle is very clean and nobody spots anything. It is difficult but not as difficult as the Heinstein shuffle. Somebody showed it to me and said it hurts like hell when first practicing it but it does look perfect once mastered.

Apparently Eric Anderson has a good one is his Ah Ha book. Never read or seen it so cannot comment.

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Postby johnnygri » Sep 18th, '08, 21:25

Sorry I don't know all of those. I'd dare say that all of them have been used very successfully and that it's all about performing the shuffle in a nonchalant manner. I'd wager that which ever one you pick, if you put the time in to perfect it, you'll use it. Especially if you decide to purchase one of the books or DVDs mentioned - I find I put more work into a trick or sleight if I own the book/DVD in which its published.

I hope that isn't too foggy, hope it turns out well :)

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Postby Palfince » Sep 18th, '08, 21:30

Just a quick note, I think Oz Pearlman's False Riffle Shuffle is also in the instant download for Emerge Triumphant from here. I haven't got it but if you want to learn the false shuffle without having to spend £22.00 on the DVD it's the thing to do, although I'm sure all the other tricks and sleights on the DVD are good.

Might buy it myself soon as well seems like a good idea to know a false riffle shuffle and I've been looking for a triumph routine like that for a while.


On a side note I always seem to say my thoughts out loud...weird...


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Postby queen of clubs » Sep 19th, '08, 01:05

Palfince wrote:Just a quick note, I think Oz Pearlman's False Riffle Shuffle is also in the instant download for Emerge Triumphant from here. I haven't got it


It isn't. The Emerge Triumphant download from Penguin Magic does not teach the move. Oz simply says "We're gonna do a false riffle here - which you can learn elsewhere".

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Postby Palfince » Sep 19th, '08, 20:56

queen of clubs wrote:The Emerge Triumphant download from Penguin Magic does not teach the move. Oz simply says "We're gonna do a false riffle here - which you can learn elsewhere".


That's annoying, I'm sure I saw a review somewhere else saying it taught the shuffle on it...oh well.

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Postby Michael Kras » Sep 21st, '08, 19:39

The Heinstein Shuffle by Karl Hein is nearly invisible and completely convincing. He even has a false bridge at the end! I typically use a Tabled Zarrow though.

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