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I was performing Derren's version of OOTW one day for someone at work, and i said to her Give the cards a good mix and illustrated what i wanted her to do, just as Derren shows on the DVD, and instead of giving it a really good and thorough overhand shuffle, she picked up half the deck and worked the packet in her right hand into the packet in the other hand. It was almost like a sideways Faro shuffle.

Unbelievable. Exactly what i didnt want.

I ended up setting the deck again under her nose using a lot of off the cuff patter and bullplop. Did the trick and got carried out of there on the shoulders of my colleagues. But thats a story for another day.

The moral of this story is simply; There's always one.

funny story from my limited exp.

Shortly after learning Wayne Houchins Stigmata, I decided to perform at the caf. in my local Community College. I was using the criss cross force and when I asked my spectator to cut the cards, I forgot to demostrate. The guy does the cut and completes it, luckily however, he left a small jog in the deck and i was able to reverse the cut and continue the trick. So you could always look for that.

On another note, when thing that I took from Rich Ferguson(SP?) dvd Tagged, he mentions a way to test and see if your spectator had chosen the word you were trying to force. If they don't, you redo the force by using the line "Just so I can prove there are no gimmicks here, I want you to go back to the pages we were on before....." and re attempt the force.

I've adapted this to card magic, and when I ran into the same issue of my spectaor runing my cut and setup, I run back through the deck and look for my setup, and cutting it back to the top while saying "Now I want to ensure we get a random card so we are going to do it again" and I run a false shuffle to "remix" the cards, while leaving my top stock in place and then starting the trick over.

Hope this helps and sorry for the really long post.

funny story from my limited exp.

Shortly after learning Wayne Houchins Stigmata, I decided to perform at the caf. in my local Community College. I was using the criss cross force and when I asked my spectator to cut the cards, I forgot to demostrate. The guy does the cut and completes it, luckily however, he left a small jog in the deck and i was able to reverse the cut and continue the trick. So you could always look for that.

On another note, when thing that I took from Rich Ferguson(SP?) dvd Tagged, he mentions a way to test and see if your spectator had chosen the word you were trying to force. If they don't, you redo the force by using the line "Just so I can prove there are no gimmicks here, I want you to go back to the pages we were on before....." and re attempt the force.

I've adapted this to card magic, and when I ran into the same issue of my spectaor runing my cut and setup, I run back through the deck and look for my setup, and cutting it back to the top while saying "Now I want to ensure we get a random card so we are going to do it again" and I run a false shuffle to "remix" the cards, while leaving my top stock in place and then starting the trick over.

Hope this helps and sorry for the really long post.

i don't know why that posted twice, sorry guys. didn't mean to

flaw07 wrote:i don't know why that posted twice, sorry guys. didn't mean to

Yeah right...thats what everyone says!