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Hi all,
I've read online allot of magic and also alot of (black)magic; and I'm really interested.

But how do I start with learning magic(k)? I'm actually more interested in Black Magic(k), Voodoo etc...

How do I get started? I searched whole google



What my goals are:
- I want to have the ability to eliminate enemy's
- Manipulate people
- Read thought's
- Learning hypnotise
- Do voodoo
- Cast curses
- Ability to heal



Can someone help me please ?
Greetings Jona Cohen

hello,
This is a mgic forum which discussess magic in the entertainment sense. we do not discuss or promote any of the above except maybe hypnotism for entertainment.
good luck in youir search

FairieSnuff

But,
Black-Magick hurts people? But if I'm hurt by them I own a revanche. And what do you actually can do with hipnotise? And what is the difference between white and black magic?

I'm afraid no one will have the answers nor will you find them I'm afraid. I think if you look on google you will be able to find some sort of forum for people who do this.

The mystical art of healing involves the use of items known as "relics". Here's a list to get you started:

Peroxide or an astringent cleanser (Witch Hazel certainly fits the motif)
Adhesive bandages or gauze and medical tape

You use these items on the wounds you wish to heal. Put them over said wounds and wait a few days to a week (depending on the severity of injury) and they'll heal up rather nicely. For more serious injuries, consult the ancient sages that are more commonly known as: doctors.

This can't possibly be a serious request.

Hi and welcome: as FarieSnuff says, we discuss magic in the entertainment sense. Dunno know what exactly black or white magic is, but whilst the jury is out deliberating as to whether it's possible to genuinely read people's minds, carry out voodoo spells, curse successive generations of a family, etc. there are certainly ways to apparently do some forms of blacker magic using cheeky methods of tomfoolery, as opposed to witchraft or spells.

I've recently been getting into mentalism by reading through 13 Steps To Mentalism by Corinda, which could similarly help you on you quest. It only really hints subtle flavours as to what you would like to do personally, for instance apparently read minds. It might appeal as it has a dust jacket cover with some dark illustrations, which might suggest occult, and some effects are quite morbid, such as references to Living and Dead Tests. With your own presentional spin you could I suppose you could then convey a darker feel to your magic. But being as helpfully honest and brutal as I can, if you genuinely want some kind of psychic or supernatural power, or have ever looked at Pagan symbols and Alistair Crowley in a different light after listening to Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven backwards it's probably beyond our scope to genuinely assist you!

In any case, there are definitely texts on hypnosis as a means of entertainment as FairieSnuff states, but it might be worth reconsidering your true intentions if you, for example, wish to eliminate or curse your enemies! There is a code for all areas of life, whether it be an apparent "magician's code" or whether it be a code of professional conduct for lawyers; hypnosis, similarly has a real moral and ethical code that is all the more pressing given the potential implications, which may be inappropriate if any malice is intended. On a simplistic level, even ridiculing or embarassing someone is to be discouraged.

Having said all this, I hope this doesn't sound too negative; I'm fairly new to magic too so perhaps other TM members could point you in a more appropriate direction for your needs, but 13 Steps definitely has some blacker magic flavours, and should not be disregarded. You can get a copy for about £16 - 17 on Ebay. Also as Ian the Mental-ian says, there's surely got to be some appropriate forums that will be more able to assist. Hope this helps, and good luck!

Realy thanks for your comment and I will buy the books,
But is eliminating possible with magic?

Thanks

No, sorry no one (that I know of) can answer that question truthfully on here. You'll have to talk to people who know what they're talking about.

At the risk of being eliminated, would refer you to several American sources who - I believe - might be able to assist you in your eliminating enemys (sic) quest: Anthony Soprano in New Jersey and Michael Corleoni in New York

That's OK, don't mention it

TI

While I don't believe in magik. I accept that gods and magic are very real while in our heads and I do enjoy learning about it for use as a magician.
So I will give you a quick summing up of what I learned about magik in the past ten years or so.

One rule is the return by three rule.
Point with you hand and you'll see that one finger points outwards and three fingers point at you so whatever magik you do will return on you three times. So eliminating people or controlling people will cause you trouble.

Magic is achieved by giving things (life, love, souls whatever) to spirits and demons. The magic isn't yours. You rent it and powers greater than you can take it away for their own reasons.

The most important rule in about magik and life is that nothing is free.
So ask yourself what are you willing to loose through this study (your mind, your soul, your sex life?)

If you don't care just find yourself a black goat and sacrifice it to 'Any god or spirit listening.' Something will give you some of your asked for power but you may not be aware of what your loosing in the process. (Or you'll get nothing but a strongly worded letter from the R.S.P.C.A, social rejection and some good cloths covered in blood.)

Avoid fairies at all costs what they give is fear, what they take is everything.

Also Voodoo is a religion not magic. And magik is neither black nor white its red.

You want to know something about old magic look up Wyred sisters by Terry Pratchet and go from there.

Being the 7th son of the 7th son also helps

Also and I'm just wondering, I'm not trying to be mean or condescending in this question (I did intend to be mean in the previous statements) but how old are you?

Now to show you some of my magik I send the number 23 on you. That number will follow you wherever you go now.
Also I talk to bees and they talk to each other and tell me everything they see so I'll be keeping an eye on you.

I think wiki is more appropriate for you than an entertainment based magic forum.

White magic is Wicca or Wiccan whereby the practioner is essentially pagan and practices healing and minor spells that may or may not work.
It is a religion in the same way as voodoo.

Voodoo is a black art that affects only those who believe it and fear it.

You will get no further answers regarding either art form on here as we are entertainers not shamen or wiccan.

MODS: SIN BIN????

I predict a cold ,dark future for you Insomnia White - The dark arts are not to be played around with like a game or for revenge - warning IT WILL bite you in the ass big time.

Spend your time productively and help your fellow man - if you wish to heal people...give some of your free time up and volunteer at a local hospital.

If you want revenge - try a cheesecake because like revenge this too is a dish best served cold!

Insomnia White wrote:What my goals are:
- I want to have the ability to eliminate enemy's
- Manipulate people
- Read thought's
- Learning hypnotise
- Do voodoo
- Cast curses
- Ability to heal

- Get a hitman
- Tell them what to do
- Become a psychologist
- Learn it already!
- Go to Haiti
- Just say them
- Become a doctor

Have I missed anything?

Here's a taste of reality for you Insomnia White.

"What my goals are:
- I want to have the ability to eliminate enemy's
- Manipulate people
- Read thought's
- Learning hypnotise
- Do voodoo
- Cast curses
- Ability to heal"

Re-read what you wrote here again. What sort of person does that make you? If you read that back, and pretend you've read that in a newspaper; how would you feel about that person?

Voodoo is a religion based around healing. It is not cursing or raising the dead. That was a rumour spread by Catholic Missionaries many, many years ago.

Do not learn magick. Learn how to be a nice person balanced thoughtful person instead.

Jordan C wrote:MODS: SIN BIN????

Hope not.

While it isn't the type of magic we do, it seems to be a genuine mistake and has been an entertaining thread and interesting thread.

Maybe locked at some time, but Sin Bin may be a tad harsh.

Insomnia, as you may have gathered, you have come to a forum where we entertain with magic, rather than the actual ritual practise of it. I find that people sometimes mix both up on ebay. Have a look on there, under
Collectables, Myths and magic( think there is something else as well?) Avoid magic props, instructions etc, but you may find some books, crystals and other items that may be what you are after. I don't honestly think you will find anything to eliminate people etc. There are plenty of white witches about, so maybe google that.
At least you know where to come back to if you decide you want to entertain people with magic, rather than use the practise of magic.
Remember though, no matter how much you believe in magic with potions and spells, you are unlikely to get any results.

There IS one spell that does work, which renders the user unable to stand.
You do need some specialised ingredients, which for safety reasons, I will not post.
You need to do the incantation while within reach of the person you wish to render unable to stand.
Again, I will miss out some of the words of the spell, for safety reasons.
The final line and action are:
"Look up there!"
Followed by a swift kick to the nuts.
Amazingly, it does work and the person is unable to stand for the next few minutes.

Hope this helps.