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My girlfriend has long raved about this trick but I''d never seen it. I did however suspect how he'd done it so I just watched it on youtube and at the end he says "Thank you, that was out of this world." What a cheeky little bu**er.

That's my favourite Derren quote by a thousand miles. I never get tired of it

That is one of my favourite DB routines. The poor guy looked like he'd seen a ghost....

its his version of ootw with just photos (at least im pretty sure it is)

no really? howd you know???

greets

This routine works really well with Lebanon Circle's From Hell. I think it had been discussed elsewhere, probably in the mentalist section. But yeah, wonderful presentation.

it does indeed. although i suspect that the undertaker routine with photos can have a stronger impact on the person you perform it with. the from hell cards are wonderful but you know props. ok if you combine it with the PK card and some good stoy you DO scare the living sh*t out of them witht he undertaker rutine on the other hand you do it a little bit subtler i believe.

memorire wrote: scare the living sh*t out of them

I would say that its not about scaring people, but rather it's about helping people discover the hidden intuitive abilities within them. But maybe that's just me.

hehe dont use from hell cards if you want them to discover their intuitive abilities a great effect wasted

id say the undertaker trick as it is done by brown with pictures goes rather in the direction of people discovering their hidden intuitive abilities.

greets

memorire wrote:dont use from hell cards if you want them to discover their intuitive abilities a great effect wasted

You really think so? Oh well. My loss.

yeah. its just when i do some ootw effect i do talk about our intuitive abilities and so on. my whole presentation is based around that and its how the trick is sold and it is very strong.

when i do from hell and tell the ripper story, get my victorian pennies out, sometimes do the PK effect the whole setting is totally different. yes you can use the intuitive abilities thing but it would distract from the ripper story around which the effect is based. they story and the props on the other hand lend themselves very good to create a spooky atmosphere and ending with mre emphasis on jacks spirit being there and guiding us on that evening (my presentation is based around invoking his spirit). if i would go on about our intuitive abilities it would definetly dilute the effect and distract from it too.

even if you dont use the spirit thing then normal fotos are better because they are normal...no props...photos...if you use from hell cards then you WANT to scare them a bit otherwise i see no reason for using them in the first place...and there i would do anything to acomplish that

dont make it your loss make it a gain

greets

Haha, a classic DB quote. When i saw him live earlier this year I remember him mentioning something along the lines of "...and this man lived on Losander Street..." when he was telling the a story before performing...well... it involved a table, need i say more! Oh thank you Derren for these 'magicians-only' jokes

memorire wrote:yeah. its just when i do some ootw effect i do talk about our intuitive abilities and so on. my whole presentation is based around that and its how the trick is sold and it is very strong.

when i do from hell and tell the ripper story, get my victorian pennies out, sometimes do the PK effect the whole setting is totally different. yes you can use the intuitive abilities thing but it would distract from the ripper story around which the effect is based. they story and the props on the other hand lend themselves very good to create a spooky atmosphere and ending with mre emphasis on jacks spirit being there and guiding us on that evening (my presentation is based around invoking his spirit). if i would go on about our intuitive abilities it would definetly dilute the effect and distract from it too.

even if you dont use the spirit thing then normal fotos are better because they are normal...no props...photos...if you use from hell cards then you WANT to scare them a bit otherwise i see no reason for using them in the first place...and there i would do anything to acomplish that

dont make it your loss make it a gain

greets

Hmm. I've always fancied doing spooky magic. Perhaps its something I should look into.

I personally find that folk get more freaked out when they discover they have latent psychic abilities than when I tell them that the spirit of Jack the Ripper is in the room. It just seems to resonate more deeply. But hey, what do I know?

Havent seen this for ages, but i remember a conversation i was having with someone a few days after it. I said i thought it was a rather splendid trick, and the chap i was conversing with claimed that all the pictures of the people that were alive were taken in bright light with the subject smiling or laughing, and all the pictures of people that were supposedly deceased were dark or dull and the people were expressionless or sad.

So maybe it was more a psychological thing, or maybe that was like a convincer.

I havent seen it since so please feel free to tear my post to shreds and tell me im wrong and have no business owning a deck of cards much less the 13 Steps.

Grimshaw wrote:Havent seen this for ages, but i remember a conversation i was having with someone a few days after it. I said i thought it was a rather splendid trick, and the chap i was conversing with claimed that all the pictures of the people that were alive were taken in bright light with the subject smiling or laughing, and all the pictures of people that were supposedly deceased were dark or dull and the people were expressionless or sad.

So maybe it was more a psychological thing, or maybe that was like a convincer.

I havent seen it since so please feel free to tear my post to shreds and tell me im wrong and have no business owning a deck of cards much less the 13 Steps.

To be honest with you. I'm actually leaning towards that. I know it sounds crazy as he uses fake explanations all the time but I don't know of any OOTW method that would work with pictures being shown face up. Face down you could use a standard OOTW method but the guy put them into piles of people he is attracted to and not. He would surely notice a switch..