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I thought I would pick the minds of the great and knowledgeable minds of TM.
Is that enough buttering up? I think so

I am looking for an effect to which the spectator does the entire effect whilst I just give out instructions of what they do next.
With the idea I have I will be otherwise engaged so at no point other than right at the beginning (e.g handing them a deck of cards) can I be physically involved but will mearly be giving out spoken instructions.
Any ideas?

Juan Tamariz has a lovely two-person card trick called Neither Blind Nor Stupid - also known as Neither Blind Nor Silly in some publications.

The Magician never touches the deck until the very end of the trick where he picks up the cards and finds each spectator's selection.

The working is simple, the trick itself would be a so-so self worker if devised by anyone else, but Tamariz's spin on the presentation makes it quite special.

Pete

Go out and buy the fulves self working books. 80% of the stuff can be adapted to do what your wanting to do.

simple stacks, and pre-arangenets, and mathmatical principles abound.

and dont over look the power of something like the phoa cut and restored hank.
they dont hold the hank, but they do all the cutting, and see two pieces before its restored.Which is pretty darn magical.

its in tarbell, and self working hank magic.

There's an in the hands handling of Los Angeles Open, which is the "Double A" side of Gordon Bean's Joker Joker. The spectator handles the cards throughout. You direct them with something along the lines of them getting some kind of intuitive surge in their fingers or summat as to when they think they reach their card, telling them to deal down cards. You do end with a dirty revelation, however, that needs to be cleaned up with some tip top audience management and / or misdirection (e.g. "what's that over there?! Look!"). Apart from this flaw, it's a great effect.

remind me at the TM meet my darling, and i shall show you a two person mind-reading and co-incidence effect where you don't have to even be in the same room...and you can even use an incomplete deck of cards too...

the script covers it all..and its dead easy...

Marvellous Ideas chaps keep 'em coming. Remember it'll need to be completely and utterly hands off on my part. No touchy for greedoniz.

Iain. I will pin you down and pick your inventive brain this coming meet. You lucky fella!

if you want an excuse to buy a thirty quid book, Seventh Heaven by Lewis Jones has some cracking stuff in it..covers all aspects of card magic..

story-telling
quick fire
stacks
memory-work
mentalism (yes with cards shock horror)
sleights

and its over 300 pages too...beautiful book.

And, though i've yet to read the volume i bought - magicshop.co.uk have the Semi-automatic card tricks series in stock...i find the best thing to put people off the scent of some self-workers is, to switch the medium from cards to other things, photos, envelopes...words on business cards..

Daryl has a trick called, funnily enough, "Untouched".

It's one of those one's that's not an ideal first trick because it really is so simple - I had one guy work it out in this situation, although to be fair his best friend is a top card magician who still seems to share a bit more then I would deem appropriate about the workings of card tricks. And also, the guy has one of those brains that just sees how things work.

But - as say, a third trick, when you've built up something of an impression, it goes down really well. And it is as easy as pie.

It's a "double deal" trick, if you know what I mean...

I second what Pete said regarding the Tamariz effect. It's a cracker.

The only problem about the Tamariz effect is that it seems I would need to pick up the deck near the end of the effect and that isn't possible for the idea I have in mind.

i think you might need to move this queery to somewhere a bit more specialised, then tell us your idea.
Otherwise were going to be chucking out random sugestions and get nowhere

In Harry Lorayne's Close Up Card Magic, there is an effect where the spectator cuts the deck, takes card, replaces it, cuts and cuts and cuts and then you tell him the exact number of cards it is from the top.

Don't touch the deck at all.

"It must be magic" in Expert Card Technique is really good. The spec handles the deck for the entire trick. He picks a card does some stuff and the card is then found by spelling its name. I use it a lot

daleshrimpton wrote:i think you might need to move this queery to somewhere a bit more specialised, then tell us your idea.
Otherwise were going to be chucking out random sugestions and get nowhere

I can say it here as it wont give any type of game away. Pretty much I will be engaged in a different activity and talking a spectator through an effect without myself at all involved other than telling them to E.g Cut the pack, shuffle, take one off the top etc.

1) It needs to be completely self working
2) I need to be able to talk the spec through it step by step
3) The spec will be able to complete the effect but not know the secret
4) I cannot touch any props at any point
5) There can be a set up
6) The more steps they need to do the better (within reason)

I'd have a look through some books for self workers and see if there's any ideas there that you can play with.