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My Fender acoustic seems a bit poor at the side of all that

If we're going to discuss "the notes you don't play", Iain - then BB King is the greatest guitarist to ever touch the instrument, hands down.

Yes, speed without feeling or musicality is just plain awful (Michael Angelo Batio comes to mind).

You can put him on your list, and back it with 22 years of experience - but you'll never get me to like one Richie Havens tune... ever. Even live, I couldn't stand him. The only thing about Havens that impresses me, is how he turns his guitars into kindling while playing them.

You left quite a few names of that list of yours. A few of those names shock me, in the face of other greats.

Where's Segovia? Montgomery? Reinhardt? Rory Gallagher is great - but you would put him on a list ahead of Stevie Ray Vaughan?

"greatest guitarists" lists are entirely personal (and, in the case of Rolling Stone magazine - mind numbingly awful), and subjective. Preach on, if you like - but Richie Havens still sucks.

Like in all music there are those who turn it into "art" and those who just can't. This applies just as much to blues, jazz and shred. There are plenty of "bad" shredders, but Vai and Malmsteen are great musicians and innovators. I suppose Clapton and Hendrix were the "shredders" of their day - the loudest fastest flashiest players around at that point.

These days some of the most interesting guitar work is in bands like Radiohead and Muse. But for me nothing can beat a blazing lick - placed tastefully into a good song and played with great tone and feel - like what Gary Moore used to do all the time before he went all "blues".

I'll always remember going to see Gary Moore when my friends and I were more into classic rock - to be honest, I don't think I'd ever heard of him before I was asked if I wanted to go - think it was his Back To Blues tour.

We walked into the hall behind two Yorkshire gents; one asked "so Dave, what are you hoping for tonight?" "Well, I'd have to say... Parisienne Walkways."

Obviously as he was promoting his new album, he didn't play it, and it was hilarious to hear the same guys on the way out... "pretty good, yeah... but he didn't bl**dy play Parisienne Walkways!"

I got the feeling 90% of the audience left feeling jipped! ("Gipped"? "Gypped"?)

Demitri - how dare you sir! muskets at dawn! (if dawn doesnt mind)

Havens is a genius - that rythmn, that mad barring with his overly long thumb, and interesting tunings..and his arrangements..unique and dextrous...

high flying bird and his verison of License to Kill (the dylan cover) on youtube...beautiful! plus maybe 6 albums or so..

if any of you like old school heavy blues, try:
leafhound - grower of mushrooms, and
blackcat bones - barbed wire sandwiches

speaking of Moore, he was in the 60s band Skid Row (not the dreadful 80s rock band) - they did a track called Lair of the White Witch...superb! tripped out blues...with some great fuzz-wah work...bingo that one!

I have a Takamine electro acoustic
Aria electro acoustic
Yamaha 12 string acoustic
Epiphone LP Copy

VOX AD100VT amp.

Inspirations include...

Erik Mongrain http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ksKa4VmxQds
Bob Brozman http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2p52JNcbDc
Hendrix
Brian May
Slash (early days)

(I also have a set of Peavey drums that I acquired for the mega sum of ........ £56!!!!)

IAIN wrote:Skid Row (not the dreadful 80s rock band)

But but but but...18 and Life! Slave to the Grind! 80s hair metal forever dude!

Farlsborough wrote:Flaw07 - so you're a bassist, rather than a musician

Oh, and a Korg tuner. Because everyone has boss tuners and I wanted to be different

Whilst I share you love of fine tuners, I must say I find that offensive. I work hard in my role. And if I may be so bold, I should remind you that no band is complete without a bass player.

flaw07 wrote:And if I may be so bold, I should remind you that no band is complete without a bass player.

Except for, y'know, The White Stripes.

Though technically, he does play a lot of bass note runs on his 6 string...

speaking of which, before the band Cream were even thought about, there was a band called The graham bond organisation...it had ginger on drums, jack bruce on bass, and dick heckstal-smith on sax...

the lead singer and hammond player was graham bond, who could play alto sax, hammond-organ, bass notes via the pedals and sing pretty much all at the same time...obviously not sing and sax at the same time..that would be silly..

and this was around 1963-4....

jack bruce, one of the most talented men in music if you ask me...he could sing like a good 'un too...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbhxB7cG ... re=related

this guy was pretty mean too...good voice as well...

these fellas werent too shabby though

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x8IMFe2uxt4

flaw07 wrote:

Farlsborough wrote:Flaw07 - so you're a bassist, rather than a musician

Oh, and a Korg tuner. Because everyone has boss tuners and I wanted to be different

Whilst I share you love of fine tuners, I must say I find that offensive. I work hard in my role. And if I may be so bold, I should remind you that no band is complete without a bass player.

Hi Flaw - sorry, no offence intended... but surely dude, if you've had practically any experience of playing in a band - and it sounds like you have - you must have developed a thicker skin to bassist jibes...?!

For the record, I have a lot of respect for bassists - it's not uncommon to find sulking guitarists (who wanted to be in the band but there was no space for them) covering bass, and you can really tell... they suck. Then you hear a band with someone who's passionate about their instrument playing bass and it's like "ah yes, that's what it's meant to sound like!"

I was only kidding, I'm used to the bass player jokes from my old band. My current bands singer used to play bass and our now ex guitarist(can't seem to hold on to those) started on bass. So we pick on the drummer

What do you call someone who hangs out with bands?

A bassist!!

(sorry couldn't resist!!)

flaw07 wrote:I was only kidding, I'm used to the bass player jokes from my old band. My current bands singer used to play bass and our now ex guitarist(can't seem to hold on to those) started on bass. So we pick on the drummer

Now now, drummers are the hey to the band, don't start picking on us, we bite! try playing when we start to continually alter the tempo we all know the power lies in the sticks.

Q - How many bass players does it take to change a lightbulb?

A - Six, one to change it, and the other five to fight off the lead guitarists who are hogging the light