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Postby beetlejuiceecis » Feb 22nd, '09, 23:24



This is the most realistic levitation I have ever seen.
However, it is a video demo, and we all know that some demos are cut to make a product look better than it actually is.
I'll have to see it live before making my mind up.

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Postby Renato » Feb 22nd, '09, 23:54

With regards to this Dragon thingy, what spoils it for me is the cap; where's the magic in a sharp snap and a little flash? Much better IMO to simply open your hands and let a wisp of smoke contained within drift up and away - no noise suggestive of a charge, just a mysterious byproduct.

And with regards to Tarantula - nice!

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Postby archimage » Feb 23rd, '09, 05:57

You made some excellent points Nexus. I'm looking forward to the re-release. Murphys initially had it and we attempted to order some, but then they weren't carrying it anymore. I assumed there was some type of safety issue or complaints. Which brought me to some of the assumptions stated earlier. However, we all know what assumptions can do. Thanks for setting me straight.

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Postby Craig Browning » Feb 23rd, '09, 16:07

I don't remember Jay Scott Berrys Dematerialization? I don't mean to date you but what year about was it released? Sounds interesting!


:lol: Let's see... 1983-84 perhaps?

In Jay's vanish you would see him cup the item into his hands and suddenly smoke would come rolling out between his fingers and as he slowly opened his hands the item was gone as this amazing smoke emerged... it was quite enchanting! He had them on the market for some time but I'm unsure if he's still selling.


My biggest problem (and it seems to be the one draw back most of us are seeing) is the cap gun thing... if he used the cap to trigger some smoke powder or a bit of flash paper with smoke & sparkles in it, that would be very cool but just the little snap and no smoke.... it's going to hurt sales.

You mention a "loop" that permits instant reset... The Raven had such a thing ages ago. It was one of the reasons I still love the Raven.

The video needs to be shot from two perspectives however; one or two shots from over the shoulder, as it is present shown but at least three to five shots from the audience perspective so people can see what the public would see vs. what the magician sees.

If your friend corrects the smoke element and shoots some footage as suggested, editing it in to what he has now, I think you could expect strong sales. As it stands, and I honestly mean it, the snap ruins the thing and deters reason for interest given the myriad of similar pulls already on the market e.g. it's not different enough

It's hard to create "New" Magic, especially when you don't have the resources for doing proper research. I see so many situations in which someone is reinventing the same wheel, believing that a simple change in color (for example) means it's "different" and thus, better. It is not however "new"... a Red Origami cabinet is the same illusion as the Blue one made by an unauthorized builder (long, very old story). This perspective however, applies to all levels of magic, this particular device being proof of it; the creator being far better off if he'd simply include, within a book or article, his spin on using (insert your favorite contemporary pull here) and how to add the flash/smoke rather than chasing the dollar and idea of being an inventor.

I can't stress enough how difficult is really is, to create "original" magic. I can assure you that 95% of what most of us come up with and believe to be "New" and "Novel" AIN'T! It's just an independent discovery of things already done. This is particularly true to those that have only been around magic a very short time and who have had little to no exposure to the pro world and how it really works... but I'm rambling at this point, so few willing to actually HEAR what I'm saying and why. :?

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Postby daleshrimpton » Feb 23rd, '09, 16:14

I think your talking about the mini fog machine he invented. :)

I have the original lecture noted he came out with, with the instructions on how to make it.

Ill pm you the method.. Its not a cap :)

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Postby planetrock » Feb 24th, '09, 06:45

We are definitely looking forward to this item coming in next week! We anticipate the tarantula will be in the best seller section.

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Postby James Prince » Feb 24th, '09, 18:43

The levitation looks great and the spin is wonderful.

The seller however has to be the ring landing on the spectator's finger.

THE DOWNSIDE - You have to break the thread every time you perform this!

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Postby queen of clubs » Feb 24th, '09, 23:23

James Prince wrote:THE DOWNSIDE - You have to break the thread every time you perform this!


Oh my gosh! You mean it uses some kind of thread? I thought it was magikkkkkkk!!!! :lol:

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Postby Michael Kras » Feb 25th, '09, 00:27

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Postby Jean » Feb 25th, '09, 01:53

Michael Kras wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jToLdmuTPQ That's the Fearson method.


Wow, he actually has the word 'thread' in the title.

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Lets move the dragon posts

Postby TedTalon » Feb 25th, '09, 02:18

Craig Browning wrote: You mention a "loop" that permits instant reset... The Raven had such a thing ages ago. It was one of the reasons I still love the Raven.



Hi Craig, I think what Nexus is talking about is not the loop any of the others products of this type have, including the Raven. It's not an IT. While IT is still apart of the the dragon this loop Nexus is speaking of is not T. As far as the description of the explosive part of the trick, I think Stephane Jardonnet summed it up best on Magic Cafe:

QUOTE: I like to perform the web trick from Jim Pace, because of the screaming reaction at the end, when the person realize that there's a big black spider on the back of her hand. I will place The Dragon in this category of effects, where the climax scares a lot of people around. It is so unexpected. Should I mention the fact that the explosion create a natural misdirection to help covering your angles when vanishing the object?

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Out of respect to the Turantula and Yigal we should move the talks of the dragon to another post. Answer me if you wish in the existing The dragon post. :)

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Postby beetlejuiceecis » Feb 25th, '09, 12:44

Michael Kras wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jToLdmuTPQ That's the Fearson method.


I saw that and thought... hmmmmm how convenient! :lol:

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Postby Mr Ben » Feb 27th, '09, 18:39

I have to say, along with most people, that the Tarantula does look fabulous!

However, I'm still worried about how practical it will be - although I think that's a fairly expansive question, given it's a (Deleted by Mods - be wary of exposure please)
C.U.P.S is around the corner on this one...



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Postby DrTodd » Feb 27th, '09, 22:20

Michael Kras wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jToLdmuTPQ That's the Fearson method.


http://www.emagicsupply.com/master-levi ... -p-43.html

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Postby JakeThePerformer » Feb 28th, '09, 16:59

Hello all,

I just got an email from "Penguin Magic", (I just bought something from them a couple years ago, that's all.) The email said this...


A lot of Penguin customers have had questions about Tarantula. I just did a quick interview with the creator, Yigal Mesika to get the inside scoop.

I asked Yigal all of the questions we've been getting. My favorite part of the interview is his story of where he got the idea for the Tarantula "floating ring to finger" effect.

I think you'll enjoy:
http://media3.penguinmagiccom/audio/Yigal_Maxwell_Tarantula.mp3

Here's a quick link to the Tarantula page on Penguin: http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1931

If you haven't seen the demo video yet, be sure to check it out. Penguin will be one of the first shops in the world to have Tarantula, and we'd love to rush one out for you.

I hope you have a great weekend.

Best,

Maxwell Murphy
Penguin Magic: born to perform.
http://www.penguinmagic.com




I'm not interested in this,

I just got this email and thought I would show it to you all.




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