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coin magic classic palm

Postby balejben » Mar 11th, '04, 20:23



hey i am just getting into coin magic i know some of the basics but am having trouble with the clasic palm i cant seem to find the right spot can any1 give tips to help me at all.

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Postby jugglemonkey » Mar 11th, '04, 20:28

errrrrrrrrr..... look at whatever book/Video you have and it should show you. Then just palm it in that spot (or near abouts) and use your hands naturally, you will soon get used to the feel of the palm and should soon become second nature. Hope that has helped.

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Postby magicdiscoman » Mar 11th, '04, 20:52

the classic palm position varies from hand to hand try placeing the front edge of the coin in the creese made by your ring midle and little finger, then see were the coin lays, the rest is all flex of the u-know what mussle.
keep it light your not trying to crush the coin, just enough to hold it in place.
for practice make an ok jesture, thats all the pressure you need, not a lot is it.

what type of coins are you useing, old english pennys are a bit bigger than halfs :wink: :wink:

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Postby Happy Toad » Mar 12th, '04, 00:07

much easier with large coins, so maybe start with a £2 coin.

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Postby magicdiscoman » Mar 12th, '04, 00:20

ok coin comparason.

£2 coin 28mm.
1/2 american 30mm.
english penny old style 31mm.
palming coins 30-38mm.
chineese coin 38mm, half size avalable.
dollar ?mm about 38mm i think.
£5 coin ?mm.

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Postby taneous » Mar 12th, '04, 08:39

This is a nice explanation that really helped me when i was learning it:
http://www.zyworld.com/coinpurse/Classicpalm.htm
Practice holding it in the right position first - it doesn't always come right away and feels quite awcward at first - but work on it cos you need to strenghten muscles etc. Once you can hold it there for a while - start practicing to get it into that position from a finger rest position. Once again it takes lots of practice. It is possible to clasic palm just about any coin - and a number of other things but the key is to practice it as much as possible - in front of the tv, in the board room - any time your hands are free. If i pick up anything smallish now I automatically palm it in some or other way without even thinking - habit I guess..
Good luck :)
How long would the rest of you say it takes to learn the classic palm so it's relatively natural. I would say about 6mnths?

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Postby Midas Kid » Mar 12th, '04, 11:06

It is possible to clasic palm just about any coin -


I have real trouble with 10p and 50p. Any hints anyone?

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Postby magicdiscoman » Mar 12th, '04, 11:10

start big and go smaller is the best advice you can get, check taneous's link (this is certainly one for the archives bab).

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Postby taneous » Mar 12th, '04, 11:10

hmm - ok maybe I should ammend that statement a bit I wasn't really thinking of really tiny coins :lol:

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Postby magicdiscoman » Mar 12th, '04, 11:27

though it is possible to classic palm a stack of pennies and hanpin chang then one at a time, why would you want to.
our currency is just to small to be convincingly used, unless you have lots of money and can aford 20+ £5 and £2 coins just for practice and who has thease in there small change thease days.
thats why i use old english pennys and chineese coins mostly and use them in a magic context not i can make that penny vanish from under this pound coin tricks.

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 12th, '04, 11:36

Please excuse this if it's a stupid question (and it probably is!) but if you coin meisters use foreign or obsolete coins, don't you get problems with specs assuming they're fake or gimmicked? I know things like Aardvark Thru Coin uses a 'special' but if I saw a guy doing stunning things with palming coins, USA coins or old English coins, I'd be wondering why he isn't doing it with current UK coins so do you folks ever get asked that? (Since my coin manipulation expertise starts and ends with spending them I just thought I'd ask!)

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Postby Happy Toad » Mar 12th, '04, 11:41

I have real trouble with 10p and 50p. Any hints anyone?


Yeah don't use them. Classic palming a 10p is a nightmare, or maybe it's just you and me :)

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Postby bananafish » Mar 12th, '04, 11:46

if you coin meisters use foreign or obsolete coins, don't you get problems with specs assuming they're fake or gimmicked?


I used to think the same thing, however the only real advantage I can see to using a standard uk coin is that you can actually borrow the coin off a spectator.

If asked why I'm using half dollars or old pennies, or even mexican coins! I just say because they are bigger and so more visible, but believe it or not no one really cares. All they see is a coin vanishing or appearing or whatever it's meant to be doing. In short all they see is the magic.

It's a bit like using bicycle poker sized cards in the UK. Didn't you think that when you first started using them that people would ask why you are using these funny looking extra large cards? I know I did. After all, most lay people in the UK are used to bridge sized waddington type cards.

I know its not exactly the same thing but it is the same principle.

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Postby taneous » Mar 12th, '04, 11:47

I use US silver half dollars and old english pennies. Our biggest coin (R5) isn't really big so i explain to people that I use these coins cos they're more visual. I don't think most lay-people know what a gaffed coin is or how you can gimmick a coin so I'mm not too woried about that. When I started with coins I was determined to use local currency - but okito boxes etc. are usually made with a half dollar/ penny in mind - so I adapted. In an impromptu scenario I will use local currency - cos it's obviously not impromptu if i haul out a half dollar (even if they're on me all the time). Chinese coins and other more exotic coins also give you an excuse to tell a story about the coins - if that suits your style, so they're cool to use as well. I guess that's my 2 cents..

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 12th, '04, 11:50

Bikes certainly are slightly unusual beasties but most times it's the faces rather than the backs which are noticed. I can see the idea behind using large Chinese coins or others where the appearance is very different but I was just wondering if you got any flak over some of the coins. Nice to know that it's all hunky-dory in Coinsville - will now go away and just spend some more UK coins!

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