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this just looks to good to be true, anyone have it or is there a review i cant find?

I'm surprised no one else has posted a reply to this. Don't buy it, let's just say its a none starter for anyything other that set up and show it immediatly. You can't do it walk around you break the you know what and the set up cant be done cleanly in front of people, unless you can justify some strange twitching.

Al.

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic1352.p ... t=floating was one thread from way back and the general trend was 'a goodie'.

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Neil...

Welcome to the forum....


The post (your first!) has been removed because it was a tad revealing.
Such comments about methods/materials are best kept out of the public eye.

Many thanks
TalkMagic Admin

The REAL floating card...

An excellent little effect, minimal setup and a very nicely done instructional DVD included.

You WILL NOT get everything you need to get it up and running straight away, although most magi will have 'the tools' needed in their drawers somewhere I'm sure.

It's a breathtaking little effect, and you can perform it almost totally impromptu as part of a card routine. For instance, it makes a nice finale to an ambitious card routine—proof that the card 'rises' to the top each time.

The best part of this is that at the end, the card, deck and even your HANDS are examinable.

Using a little imagination, this is a nice little addition. Although as a standalone routine, it's a bit flat.

It may appear as 'nothing new' to most people. However, it will also come as a surprise and an 'avenue opener' to others.

Recommended if you're newly into 'floating' tricks, or if you're a cardie looking for something different... it might be worth a look in for the very small price.

My last post got removed. All I can say is - you'd get a lot more bang for your buck by getting {edited}. You'll learn how to float a lot more things in a lot more ways with the subtlties you need to sell it well.

IMO it's not worth spending that sort of dough on a minor derivation of commonly known use of a common prop.

Hopefully this post is unrevealing enough to stick!

{Well, almost. The method behind REAL floating card is not known to all. Please deviate from revelations}

I must admit I don't have this but I know several people that do and all of them rate it very highly. I considered getting it and did a search and all the reviews I read were positive.

Mark

to be honest i agree with everyone else dont buy it, if you do you will feel stupid. I cnt say why of course. If you want a floating card trick buy hummer card. i heard that is good, sorry i odnt have a link to it but i think it may be avaliable at www.magictricks.co.uk Or you could just go to a magic shop and ask them whats the best trick where you make a card float and he will show you. hope this may have helped.

balejben wrote:to be honest i agree with everyone else dont buy it, if you do you will feel stupid. I cnt say why of course. If you want a floating card trick buy hummer card. i heard that is good, sorry i odnt have a link to it but i think it may be avaliable at www.magictricks.co.uk Or you could just go to a magic shop and ask them whats the best trick where you make a card float and he will show you. hope this may have helped.

Clarification: The Hummer Card is an ENTIRELY different effect, best suited NOT to close up.

And contrary to Big Al's post, the effect CAN be set up at any time during a routine quite easily with a little imagination. I have sat and performed a whole Ambitious routine (as an opener, granted) and managed easily the hookup required for this.

Ben—would it be possible for you to perhaps clarify why this would make you feel stupid during performance?

Check here... the pictures are very accurate.

I am not totally in defense of this item. Nor do I feel that it's a big part of 'the life changing magic' quest. However, I do believe it deserves a bit more credit than it's being given here.

Perhaps, people such as Ben and Big Al could clarify why they feel this is so flat?

Perhaps the fact that at one point this was available as a video download has caused it to unlawfully propagate around various filesharing servers, which in turn means that most people now know the effect without even have buying it.

I did the initial review of this item on this forum, and since then, I would say that this particular method has MANY uses in card magic... Rising cards, levitating revelations, and may even have a role in 'seance' type situations.

You guys really should use a little imagination before slating a product which does not make your mates say 'wow' when used as an 'off the shelf' effect.

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You are right - the method does have many uses.

But then it's not THEIR method. It's an old one. I think they shouldn't market an old principle done in not a particularly new manner with nothing important to add to the body of knowlege on the methods used. I think it's a con.

Neil...

Can I be blunt and ask if you have ever owned the REAL Floating Card DVD???

I extend the same question to Ben.

Neil wrote:You are right - the method does have many uses.

But then it's not THEIR method. It's an old one. I think they shouldn't market an old principle done in not a particularly new manner with nothing important to add to the body of knowlege on the methods used. I think it's a con.

I disagree, there are very few (if any) new principles in magic, there are basically only a small number of methods for the floating card (or floating anything for that matter) and anyone that has been around long enough will be aware of all of them. It's the handling and the end result you are paying for, not just the method. Whilst I don't own the REAL floating card I have seen it done and it looked better than any other version I've seeen as a close up effect.

You could criticise almost any product for not using new principles or methods, I recently got the Sankey revolutionary coin magic DVD and there was nothing new in that, in fact most of the moves he claims as his I've been using since he was in short trousers, the so called himber/sankey clink pass was showed to me by Bobby Bernard in 1979 (athough Sankeys name didn't come into it back then). Was that DVD a con? No way, despite there being no new principles he has some nice ideas for handling. All old effects (coins accross, through table etc,) all old methods (hpc, reverse hpc (as it used to be called) tenkai pinch etc). Very little done in a particularly new manner but some nice handling and all in all a good value for money dvd.

In fact I've only bought one new trick in recent years where the method was a considerably new twist on an old method (and that was 25 quid for what basically boils down to a svengali deck) and it was the best 25 quid I've spent in years.

Mark

Mark Chandaue wrote:I disagree, there are very few (if any) new principles in magic, there are basically only a small number of methods for the floating card (or floating anything for that matter) and anyone that has been around long enough will be aware of all of them. It's the handling and the end result you are paying for, not just the method. Whilst I don't own the REAL floating card I have seen it done and it looked better than any other version I've seeen as a close up effect.

Rock and roll!

Amen, and very well put

On the subject of the Sankey click pass, Jay credits the first part of this correctly (the Rosenthal click pass using a Himber Vanish) but it is the application of this move (the two as three count) that has his name.

Take care, Ian

IanKendall wrote:On the subject of the Sankey click pass, Jay credits the first part of this correctly (the Rosenthal click pass using a Himber Vanish) but it is the application of this move (the two as three count) that has his name.

Take care, Ian

Yup but I've been using it as a 2 as 3 and even 3 as 4 and 2 as 4 count since 79/80, in fact I have a sneaky suspicion that I may have done my old coins accross routine for daleshrimpton back in the early 80's, that routine used a combination of the hcp and the himber drop 2 as 3 count and is a routine that I showed to many of the regulars at Hamleys back in the days of the real magic dept. Back in those days the Himber drop wasn't commonly used and when Bobby showed me it and the various applications for it I fell in love with it and used it as much as I could. These days though I just use a fingertip holdback and the HPC and nothing else when doing coins accross for laymen, the effect is the same to all but magicians. I've developed several moves over the years but I would bet money that others have been using all of them long before I ever came up with them.

My point wasn't about the Sankey DVD specifically, more about the fact that there is very little NEW in magic particularly when it comes to methods and sleights. With Sankey, you pay for his handling and ideas of how to use those sleights and his ability to teach them, and with the real floating card you pay for that guys ideas and handling of the something something. New or old is not as important as well taught and well presented. A good zarrow shuffle DVD would be worth the price if it made it easy to learn the move despite the fact that the shuffle is far from new.

Mark