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madvillainy wrote:Thing is, if you're a happy clappy Christian, you're kind of duty bound to "correct" people who don't believe in what you believe in. Otherwise they're going to hell, right?

They're certainly supposed to be evangelcial which only means spread the word, not shove it down anyone's throats. If they do that it's not a religion it's a cult.
Of course, others may hold differing opinions and I respect their right to be completely and utterly wrong....

My Philosophy teacher used to remark that at least the door-to-door religious callers, the street preachers and the like who seemed to inconvenience him on an unusually regular basis cared, if not genuinely for the future of his soul then at least for their religion, whilst those respectful of his viewpoint but certain of their religion were (in their eyes) happily letting him go to hell...

I draw the line at extremism, but I've got a lot more respect for those who are at times vocal of their faith, far more than I have for those who claim to be religious but pick and choose which parts of their religion they adhere to depending on what's most suitable/convenient for them.

Mandrake wrote:

madvillainy wrote:Thing is, if you're a happy clappy Christian, you're kind of duty bound to "correct" people who don't believe in what you believe in. Otherwise they're going to hell, right?

They're certainly supposed to be evangelcial which only means spread the word, not shove it down anyone's throats. If they do that it's not a religion it's a cult.

That's a good point - there's a guy in our town who every saturday morning stands in the streets off the main high street with a megaphone reminding passers by that they're going to die soon and should start repenting their sins.....charming fellow ehh?

Of course he's allowed to believe in what he likes, but it is a tad annoying when your trying to do your shoping and your being told your going to burn in hell.

Never worry about going to Hell, you won't feel the heat for all the Bishops and Politicians in the way...

Mandrake wrote:Never worry about going to Hell, you won't feel the heat for all the Bishops and Politicians in the way...

Ba Dum Bum Tsshh.

That was a great one Mandrake. Good man.

I'm going to restart this thread again at some point and not mention religion

madvillainy wrote:I had Christians at the door once telling me the earth was 5,000 years old or some such nonsense, and I actually went and got a science book - of course, that was propaganda and a test of their faith. I asked them why they'd persisted with me for ten minutes and they said "we're only trying to help you". Misguided they may be, but ultimately they are trying to do right by other people.

My Mum has an easy solution to that.
She calls herself a Pagan (She owns a few books and doesn't really take much notice of normal religious festivals, except Christmas, which she does for the present giving). Immediately people are calling her a witch, worshipping Satan etc etc etc.
The religious nuts that do door to door preaching have heard of her, and I've witnessed them knock on the doors before her house on the street, cross to the other side of the road where there is no pavement, walk past her house, cross back over, then start knocking on doors again.
This works for the Witnesses, Buddhists, local county councillors up for re-election...

Lawrence wrote:I'm going to restart this thread again at some point and not mention religion

Whatever you do, don't mention religion...

Mandrake wrote:

Lawrence wrote:I'm going to restart this thread again at some point and not mention religion

Whatever you do, don't mention religion...

It's not even Friday! Friday is religion friday!

Damn... I said it again!

Lawrence wrote:Damn... I said it again!

Bless you my son, your sins are forgiven....here's the collection plate and I expect to hear the rustle of paper money rather than the clatter of coins...

I have faith in you Mandrake!

I BELIEVE.

I'm not the Messiah, I'm a very naughty boy !

Mandrake wrote:I'm not the Messiah, I'm a very naughty boy !

Let he who is without sin cast the first miracle.

Miracles we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer...

Tomo wrote:Argh! He said the RD name! Run away!

Someone once said "If Dawkins is the best arugment agaisnt there is, where do i sign up for the church?" I forget who said it.