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I always roll my eyes when I hear people say, "Well right now I'm selling it for this price, but people who use it tell me I should sell it for way more"

In this case it is the truth at $2.99 and you own an ipod or ipod touch it is silly not to purchase the app. It is absolutly brilliant. I just got it last night, and I am using one of the easier versions and I've already blown away our computer gurus, (I work for a cable company) my wife who also has the ipod touch was also amazed and she has not been fooled by anything in quite some time.

If you use the function where you can hand the spectator the ipod and they turn on the doodle app and the prediction is already there. Oooh its good.

At first I felt that it being electronic would be a problem, and in truth it can be but its not difficult to get around. Somebody asks you to do a trick, say sure you have a pen and paper? Wait never mind I can use the writing pad on my ipod.

I only use it when asked to perform in an informal setting almost, (and I hate to use the word) as an impromptu sort of thing.

And the fact you can create your own stuff. Wow, I'm already working on one routine tailored to the industry I work in. Heck while I'm typing I'm thinking that if I were a bar magician I could pretty much predict a persons drink..or how about in a restaurant...many ideas.

Really this is well worth the 2.99 providing you have an ipod touch or ipod phone. I don't think I'd go out and spend $200.00 on the ipod just for the app...but lord knows I've invested a heck of a lot more then that over the years.

Hi Bmat,

I'm so glad you like iForce. What you said about using it in your own line of work is EXACTLY why I made iForce so customizable.

I've recently put iForce together with some clever equivoque to predict any card a spectator names. This is now BY FAR the strongest bit of magic that I do.

They choose a card - you flip over the iPhone to show you had predicted it . . . it doesn't get any cleaner then that.

cheers,
Greg Rostami

damianjennings wrote:This is the perfect app for that though. The Rising Card and P&T apps to an extent do not have the naturalness of this.

If you're comfortable using a pen and paper to write a prediction, then you should be as comfortable using this app. That is all it seems you are doing.

Nah, you are right that this is a natural as it gets (pulling out a drawing app on your phone), I just don't like to pull out expensive tech (and leaving it face down on a table) in case it gets stolen. That's all

kolm, if you can't leave your iPhone on the table in front of you for a few moments in case it gets stolen, you need to change your venues!

Hi damianjennings,

It sounds like you've got the performance and presentation of iForce down. We love hearing these stories.

Greg Rostami

Replicant wrote:kolm, if you can't leave your iPhone on the table in front of you for a few moments in case it gets stolen, you need to change your venues!

Have you even been to manchester?

Manchester is not as bad as people think...its worse.

Says the guy from Newcastle :)

Back on topic & I think this App is actually pretty good. Only had it a day & obviously not yet tested it out but looking from the instructions & having a little play it does offer up some great opportunities to be creative.

I prefer it to some of the ESP symbol mentalism apps out there which use fancy graphics or even sound effects. I think the great thing about Ifroce is the fact it looks like you're just using a doodle app.

I'm looking forward to learning all the different outs & to the next time I'm asked to do something 'off the cuff'.

Nicely done & not a bad price.

Russ

russpie wrote:I think the great thing about Ifroce is the fact it looks like you're just using a doodle app.

I think that's the important thing here. Other "magic" apps that have fancy graphics and sound effects run the risk of diverting attention away from the magic, which can't be a good thing, especially if you're using your iPhone at the time. "But that's not magic. It's just your phone."

I think magicians who happen to own an iPhone or iPod Touch should check this out, especially as it only costs £1.79.

I havent used this in anger yet (unless you count the mrs and her friend), but I like the look of it. But I need to try it out a few times before I get over the idea of them presuming it is something to do with the iphone/ipod. Because when I looked at the demo vid, i had an idea of how it was done, though i like that there are three ways to do it to hide the method. The way I have in mind to get over this would be to start of by using the doodle application as just that, without using its hidden features. Even if it was for a gag. For example, ask them if they know what you're thinking...they say no..and you turn the iphone over and it has 'No' written on it. Then ask them to think of a place in the world...and there is a drawing of the earth on the phone...finally explain that as there are billions of places in the world, we need to narrow it down a bit, and to just think of the continent the place is in. They name it, and you show it was written down.
Alternatively do an effect where there is a set outcome for the reveal, and have them turn the phone over (using it a just a doodle app), then later using it for an effect where there are various outs needed.

Andy . . .

I think your ideas about "NO" and the "Earth" are really brilliant. What a great way of introducing the App. I like your thinking, I'm looking forward to what you're going to be doing with iForce.

While we're back on the topic of iForce here's a new presentation that I've been using that's been playing VERY WELL. I'm using a modified presentation from Ben Harris' clever app called "Crossroads".


"I'm going to predict a card that you're going to choose."

"As you know cards are either Red or Black . . . Choose Red or Black" Let's say they choose Red.

"Red cards are 2 suits, Hearts or Diamonds?" Let's say they choose Hearts.

"Now choose any number between 1 and 10." Let's say they choose 7.

"Ok, so we have a 7 and a Hearts . . . Let me show you what I wrote down BEFORE we even started."

I flip over the iPhone to show that I had written "7 of Hearts" on the display.

This is REALLY STRONG.

cheers,
Greg Rostami

I've been using a psychological force (I won't give away how that is done, look it up). I just put my ipod face down on the table so I don't sit on it. I use the springboard feature. And for those interested here is the routine.

To the spectator, "Hey can you help me out, it will only take a second"

I take out a deck of cards (yes they are normal) I give them a few shuffles and then start to deal them face down onto the table. I tell the spectator that they can say stop at any time. Eventually the say stop and I deal that card face down but off to the side of my pile and gather up the rest of the card. Now all that is left is the face down chosen card. I don't touch it. I hand them the ipod and I explain to them that I do have a doodle application and before we even sat down I wrote the name of a card on the screen. I ask them to scroll through and find the doodle app and activate it. A card is now seen on the screen. They turn over the chosen card and of course it matches.

I've had great success. You have to be pretty confident with your psychological force, but not as confident as you may think, those of you have iforce know you have a pretty broad range that you could be 'off' on your card force. For me however I've been using this psychological force for years and I am usually right on the money.

Again I use this off the cuff as an impomptu kind of thing. Its so much fun at work.

If the force is what I think it is, then this is a brilliant way of practicing it! Thanks, bmat.

I love the idea bmat.

You've brought up a VERY important aspect of performing iForce. If the reveal is something other then the iPhone then the effect is MUCH better.

In your example, the REVEAL, is when the spectator turns over the card.

Showing them what you'd written on the screen is just business . . .

Here's another example for you that doesn't include cards.

Here's what I do with the 3 coin preset. I do this with 3 old style American quarters (the ones with the eagle on the tail side).

I put my left hand face down on the table and ask them to put the coins, one at a time under my hand, while I look away.

Every time they slide the coin under my hand I reposition it while saying, "I'll put this all the way to the left, so we'll have room for the other coins."

Under the cover of my hand, I rub the top of the coin with my right index finger to FEEL if it's heads or tails.

After the last coin, I immediately flip the iPhone over, and very DRAMATICALLY raise my left hand off the table to show the coins.

cheers,
Greg Rostami