Talking cups...not C.U.P.S, cups

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Talking cups...not C.U.P.S, cups

Postby greedoniz » Oct 28th, '09, 11:54



In a cups and balls routine I wish to load something alot more solid than fruit but am having a problem with the item talking in the brass cup (in this case a pool ball).
I did think of using a rubber pool ball like the one in the "Beyond the 8ball" effect but it couldn't really pass as a real pool ball.
Can one paint the inside of the cups with some sort of rubber solution? Any other ideas?

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Postby IAIN » Oct 28th, '09, 11:58

i wonder if felt would be the answer? do they do cups with a felt lining?

have you seen this? http://www.dudethatscoolmagic.co.uk/aca ... goin_.html

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Postby Jean » Oct 28th, '09, 12:01

liquid latex? (there are plenty of websites selling it, websites I can't post on an all ages forum).

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Postby IAIN » Oct 28th, '09, 12:10

the best final load for cups and balls i've seen is a shrunken head...

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Postby jim ferguson » Oct 28th, '09, 12:49

Hi Greedoniz. Iain is right, felt is the best option. Many cups and balls workers have had the same problem and lining the inside of the cup with a half inch (or more) ring of felt will stop any klinking. This idea was adopted by David Regal in his 'Cups and balls and Cups and balls' and is popular with those who prefer things like pool balls as final loads. I have not seen cups commercialy available with the felt liners already installed, however any cup is easily modified. jim

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Oct 28th, '09, 12:56

I'll third using felt, a little strinp just around the rim of the cup does the trick. I've used golf balls as a final load and they used to make a real racket. Felt solved the problem nicely.

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Postby greedoniz » Oct 28th, '09, 13:51

Felt around my rim. Got ya!

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Wont have a ring of felt around the inside of, say, a brass cup look odd or is it more a matter of the spectators not giving a hoot about such things

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Postby Lawrence » Oct 28th, '09, 14:07

greedoniz wrote:Wont have a ring of felt around the inside of, say, a brass cup look odd or is it more a matter of the spectators not giving a hoot about such things

In short, they never give a hoot really do they?
It's like "don't you think the spectator will think these double thick cards look a bit dodgy?"... no, no they wont.

Alternative would be to line the entirety of the inside of the cup (and maybe the outside? no?). Everyone loves a nice felt lining.

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Postby IAIN » Oct 28th, '09, 14:35

everyone enjoys having that felt around the rim...and then a large load shoved into it when no one is looking...

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Postby Mr_Grue » Oct 28th, '09, 14:45

The felt is there to protect the cups when they're stacked. I think that's the assumption most people would make.

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Postby greedoniz » Oct 28th, '09, 15:20

So my next question is what glue shall I use to adhere the felt around my brass/copper/shiny metal rim?

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Postby IAIN » Oct 28th, '09, 15:22

man-glue?

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Postby jim ferguson » Oct 28th, '09, 15:34

Id start off with rubber solution first. Coat the felt AND the part of the cup the felt is to stick to, leave them to dry then press. You may have to give the felt a couple of coats as some of the first coat may be absorbed. If your happy after using them for a while then maybe restick them with something more permanent. For the correct placement of the felt place the cup and pool ball (or whatever your final load is) on a flat surface. Note where the centre of the ball is (from a horizontal perspective) and draw an imaginary line through the ball to the cup. Where this line is is where the felt should be. Hope that makes sense. jim

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Postby greedoniz » Oct 28th, '09, 15:37

Perfick!

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Postby IAIN » Oct 28th, '09, 15:39

certainly...i'll keep it at body temperature for you too...

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