Ok - I give up - This is something else

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Ok - I give up - This is something else

Postby LoveKey1988 » Nov 10th, '09, 14:37



Hello again....a question for you. What tricks do you know that when done to a know it all that says over and over again: It's just tricks man, just tricks....all are tricks...made him say: Oooo..k this is something else....Anyone?

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Postby daleshrimpton » Nov 10th, '09, 14:51

your after a s.t.f.u trick.


(SHUT THE F**K UP:) )

The only thing that will stop them in their tracks, is a really well performed effect.

Make sure that you know one. Mind you, remember that they wont heckle if all the magic is good, and you involve them , rather than demonstrate how clever you are.

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Postby themagicwand » Nov 10th, '09, 15:07

A demonstration of mediumship usually does the trick. As it were.

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Postby A J Irving » Nov 10th, '09, 15:14

I've never tried anything like this to see if it would work but my suspicion is that any gross type of trick involving blood or bodily fluids of doing something horrible to yourself like hammering a nail up you nose could stop someone in their tracks. A lot of the really nasty looking things you can do tend to rely on largely unknown secrets of anatomy and actual involve you doing the thing your 'pretending' to do such as eating broken glass. It's difficult for them to accuse you of doing a trick if your actually putting the glass in your mouth, crunching down on it and then swallowing it. Alternatively, there are plenty of horrendous looking effects which are genuine tricks and probably won't result in you bleeding or requiring medical attention.

[A word of warning though (especially to our younger and more impressionable forum members) eating broken glass and other such geek magic effects are genuinely dangerous if done wrong and should only be attempted by professionals or idiots] :wink:

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Postby LoveKey1988 » Nov 10th, '09, 15:23

Dales thanks for your advice.

magicwand...where can I find something like this?

Irving...thanks to you too...

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Re: Ok - I give up - This is something else

Postby Shufton » Nov 10th, '09, 15:46

LoveKey1988 wrote:Hello again....a question for you. What tricks do you know that when done to a know it all that says over and over again: It's just tricks man, just tricks....all are tricks...made him say: Oooo..k this is something else....Anyone?


Some folks will say that no matter what you do - especially a "friend" who has a delicate ego, and hates to be stumped by you. But, of course, they ARE just tricks, after all!

There are some effects, that when presented well, do seem to fall into another category. I like Dale's concept of a STFU trick - that will even work on the most die hard of skeptics. Are you after a description of effects? No secrets will be revealed here - what are you really after?

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Postby Matthius88 » Nov 10th, '09, 15:50

A J Irving wrote: Nasty magic


I think I'd rather let them heckle.... :shock:

This issue was brought up in a thead not so long ago though I think. Cannot remember which one, but the general consensus seemed to be that involving the person in question, a good "in the spec's hands" trick seemed to be the way to silence them. I can see the logic behind this. If its in their hands, they shuffled the deck or anything similar, anything they say after that is kind of redundant because others will think "Well, you were holding the cards, if you can't explain it...."

Might have been the "litte tips" sticky I saw it in.

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Postby LoveKey1988 » Nov 10th, '09, 15:50

No I don't expect a description of an effect...I just want to know what effects do you think would be good to shut them up and where can I find them...

Thanks for or thoughts on this Matthius...

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Postby Peter Marucci » Nov 10th, '09, 16:08

Lovekey writes, in part: " . . . .a know it all that says over and over again: It's just tricks man, just tricks...."

There are real zingers out there, but "man, he's right. They ARE just tricks."

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Postby kaala » Nov 10th, '09, 16:14

a good "in their minds" or "in their hands" stands out from the usual trick where everything is done by you. then they can accuse you for it being just the sleight of hand and say "yes, very clever" or "pretty good". something amongst those lines.

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Postby Klangster1971 » Nov 10th, '09, 16:37

I think some form on mental magic is the best bet here.... and the key is not to let them know that they are getting to you. You want to perform something that seems effortless but baffling.

I'd probably be tempted with something like the Hoy Book Test. Just get them to pick a couple of books from anywhere, give them one and then tell them the exact word they're looking at.

When performed right, it's a true show-stopper!

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Postby Grimshaw » Nov 10th, '09, 17:16

Definitely mentalism stops people in their tracks, and while there's a healthy debate on the subject, there's no law saying you can't perform mental effects with cards. Indeed, it'll look good if you start your routine with sleight of hand tricks, and then move into something a bit more.....unusual.

Of course, Out Of This World is usually a show stopper if properly dressed up as a mental feat, but personally i do a deck switch and perform IDentity, a strong mental effect that is self-working and you don't even touch the deck. Joy.

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Postby Mandrake » Nov 10th, '09, 17:24

In Annemann's Practical Mental Effects the whole of chapter 11 is devoted to mentalism with cards :wink: .

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Postby Barefoot Boy » Nov 10th, '09, 17:44

A well performed Centre Tear will work wonders!

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Postby moodini » Nov 10th, '09, 18:47

I do various versions of card to wallet (palm and no palm versions) and they always hit people like a bullet in the head...stops them straight in their tracks and often leaves them speachless!

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