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Anyone know any useful forces? I know:


Cut Deeper Force
Bottom Deal (card slid back and number counted off)
Riffle Forces (riffle through deck, when stop is said remove all but top card)

Are there any different?

There's loads and loads out there. Grab a copy of Annemanns 202 Methods of Forcing, there's a fair few in there.

What do you like to hear?
As early as 1938 Ted Annemann published 202 Forces, ...

.. and today there not less!

Cheers
Th.

edit: mysterious, - someone was faster, ...

TheMagicalRob wrote:Are there any different?

Yes, there are one or two more.

202 Methods of Forcing is probably a good place to start and will give you lots to think about. You can get the PDF for the price of a deck of cards from Lybrary...

http://www.lybrary.com/methods-forcing- ... a6ba7a2a7e

Lewis Jones has a book on forcing that is supposed to be very good. Unfortunately, he has sold out on his website but you may be able to find a used copy if you hunt around places like Magic Week.

Learn the classic force properly, as in intense study and constant practice, and you will never look back.

please remember to learn a peek, and a control too.
( and preferably a top change)


These tools are highly valuable if the force goes wrong. Plus, if your going to do the forces you already know, you will be able to have the deck shuffled by the. spectator first.


OH, And your not doing a bottom deal.You are doing a Glide.
The bottom deal is a highly skillfull move, that many can not do.

There's a great peek in Phill Smith's Mitox (or is it Yokai?) called - I think - the Dribble Peek. Brilliant.

Replicant wrote:Lewis Jones has a book on forcing that is supposed to be very good. Unfortunately, he has sold out on his website but you may be able to find a used copy if you hunt around places like Magic Week.

"Encyclopedia of Impromptu Card Forces" - very well worth seeking out. As is anything by LJ, especially "Seventh Heaven"

The riffle force you mention sounds more like the Bluff pass?!?

But why not try the riffle force, and the backslip. Both of which are being talked about in another topic further down the Support & Tips page...

P.S. I know Youtube is not usually a good source for knowledge, but if you want the basic concept of the forces I've mentioned then check out TheCardMechanic, but be sure to follow other advice and check out some good books.

I'm a believer that one of the most natural looking forces is the classic force so I recommend that you master this one first.

Other than the classic, I've got by so far with a cut deeper and riffle force.

You don't need to learn too many forces, three or four at most should be enough but those that you do use have to be practiced to perfection.

PATEO (and its variants) is a useful utility force. You might need to spend a long time becoming very good at it, but that's the same with anything really.

equivoque with some other subtle touches for me...

I don't trust the Classic Force, in that you sometimes get spectators who insist on being awkward with their choice no matter how uncomfortable you make them.

The one that works best for me and many magician's standard is the Riffle Force - but the one you speak of sounds more like the Backslip Force. Riffle is easy to learn and mighty convincing. Do it

When it comes to card forces, the cross cut is the one that I use nearly all the time, simple and works really well.

Spectator shuffles the cards and freely chooses 3 or 4 (whatsoever).
They're forced. Well, the solution is an adaptation of card mucking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMBFaArc-Ak

Think about all the possibilities in mentalism and bizarre magic...
The move is angle proof , can be repeated ... and isn't easy.
I had to rework alot of details.