Pure Effect by Derren Brown Review

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Postby Lenoir » Mar 1st, '10, 00:58



I enjoyed Absolute Magic and Pure Effect. I'd like to have seen the general reaction before he became the star he did and everybody started wanting to be him.

I think some of the interesting points he has made are on his lecture for International Magic. Really deep stuff.

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Postby SamGurney » Mar 1st, '10, 01:20

I enjoyed Absolute Magic and Pure Effect. I'd like to have seen the general reaction before he became the star he did and everybody started wanting to be him.

I think some of the interesting points he has made are on his lecture for International Magic. Really deep stuff.

Yeah, I read that he was well known by magicians before he was famous... But I'm curious about how well he was known and how respected he was. If I'm 100% honest about the international lecture, I was a little dissapointed at his performance- but it was nice to see reminiscence; fortunatley though, it is a reasuring piece of knowledge that even the living legend was once human like the rest of us. I found that on that lecture, the second part where he discussed some principles (mostly outlined, if not all, in pure effect) he was much more at ease and comfortable with the audience- the atmosphere was better.

Another one I'd reccomend, perhaps over the lecture, is the devil's picturebook. It's got more meat to it and has little 'theory', it's just derren playing with some cards (or in respect 'some pasteboards') and it thoroughly enjoyable- as one review aobut it said: 'Thank God for video tape, or we may have missed what Derren got up to when he was 'just' a magician'. which sums it up perfectly.
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Postby SamGurney » Mar 1st, '10, 01:21

Absolue magic is like the bible

In the name of the Dunninger, and of Canasta and of the holy Derren. Ber-glas.

Ok, I know I'm passionate about magic, but I really need to stop comparing it to religion.

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Postby Lenoir » Mar 1st, '10, 01:27

Both DVDs are excellent. I'm fortunate to have sat down and sessioned(ish) with Derren and Hollingworth at the same table. Derren wasn't performing or doing anything special, just laughing at his now failing card skills, but had some insightful opinions.

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Postby SamGurney » Mar 1st, '10, 01:56

I'm fortunate to have sat down and sessioned(ish) with Derren and Hollingworth at the same table. Derren wasn't performing or doing anything special, just laughing at his now failing card skills, but had some insightful opinions.

I hate you. And to think that I was jealous of the people who got the books for 20 quid.

Love Sam. xD

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Postby Flash » Mar 1st, '10, 03:07

SamGurney wrote:Better be selective. I think I'll have to report you if you sell the 13 steps! Btw, I would happily pay hundreds of quid for each page of absolute magic- it's like a bible, it's some morals and aspirations to live by for magicians. Sell pure effect if you must, I would rather sell my underwear than absolute magic, it's up there with psychological subtleties and the royal road.


Mate, I'm afraid you'd better get reporting cos my signed copy of 13 Steps is one of the 1st up against the wall when the revolution comes..! :lol:

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Postby SamGurney » Mar 1st, '10, 23:40

Mate, I'm afraid you'd better get reporting cos my signed copy of 13 Steps is one of the 1st up against the wall when the revolution comes..!

Things really must be bad if your selling the 13 steps. You dissapoint me. xD
Btw, is it signed by Corinda?

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Postby Flash » Mar 2nd, '10, 01:20

surely is.

It's not in the best condition, but was signed by Corinda.

Just one of those things, mentalism isn't so much my style... I still use a few subtleties in what I do, but that's about it...

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Postby lewisswiresmagic » May 1st, '10, 18:03

i have both absolute magic and pure effect and they are exceptional books, anyone intrested in purchasing?

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Postby EckoZero » May 1st, '10, 18:35

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Sorry

You wont find much better anywhere and it's nothing - a rigmarole with a few bits of paper and lots of spiel. That is Mentalism

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Postby Jean » May 1st, '10, 18:36

lewisswiresmagic wrote:i have both absolute magic and pure effect and they are exceptional books, anyone intrested in purchasing?


Sorry just checking as this sounds to good to be true. You actually have these books and your willing to sell them?

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Postby Lenoir » May 1st, '10, 18:43

They're not that hard to find Harry. International Magic have both.

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Postby Jean » May 1st, '10, 19:22

Oh thank christ. I thought they'd been out of print for ages. So I can afford to wait. Yeah sorry lewiswiresmagic you can't sell books that are still available.

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Postby Lenoir » May 1st, '10, 19:47

They've been out of print for a while, but lots of copies are circulating.

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