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Jack T. Ripper

Postby gypsyfish » Mar 6th, '10, 15:27



For people living in Asia, a show speculating that Jack the Ripper moved to New York from London to carry on his evil deeds airs on Sunday at 11.00 pm (Seoul/Tokyo). If you perform From Hell or some other Ripper effect, you might glean some info for your act from it.

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Postby Craig Browning » Mar 7th, '10, 16:06

I know of a couple of people actually creating acts right now (in New York) based on this theory... though they are primarily a "Murder Mystery" type bit, one team is incorporating a small element of Mentalism... I'm looking forward to see what happens with them.

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Postby Demitri » Mar 7th, '10, 16:43

I've seen the show - and it was actually very interesting. I recommend it to anyone interested in the subject.

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Postby Big Jon » Mar 7th, '10, 18:04

Why can't people simply buy a good book on the subject instead of watching documentaries pushing ridiculous theories.

(I'm also a Ripperologist...)

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Postby Chris » Mar 7th, '10, 18:13

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic34300.php

or just come to this and dont watch it? :lol:

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Postby gypsyfish » Mar 8th, '10, 00:45

Big Jon wrote:Why can't people simply buy a good book on the subject instead of watching documentaries pushing ridiculous theories.

(I'm also a Ripperologist...)


Rein in your ponies, Big Jon, I read, too.

This theory purported by a retired NYC cold case detective is that James Kelly, an upholsterer, was Saucy Jack. He escaped from Broadmoor Asylum (where he'd been confined for stabbing his wife to death) before the Ripper murders began and moved to the USA after they stopped. Several other Ripper-like murders occurred in various US cities, murders that even the newspapers noted were similar to Jack the Ripper's.

James Tully is the author of Prisoner 1167: The madman who was Jack the Ripper, which makes the same claim, so I reckon books can push ridiculous theories, too.

(I'm not a Ripperologist, just a guy who enjoys using many and varied resources to learn about things.)

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Postby Big Jon » Mar 8th, '10, 01:49

The documentaries are often worse than the books though in their agendas, ignoring any (sometimes very little) non biased arguments they may contain. But by books I was referring to non-suspect ones, such as The Facts by Paul Begg or the Complete JTR by Donald Rumbleow.

Apologies if I seemed testy earlier, may have been having a bad moment.

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Postby gypsyfish » Mar 8th, '10, 02:48

No problem, Jon.

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Postby Craig Browning » Mar 8th, '10, 12:51

Big Jon wrote:The documentaries are often worse than the books though in their agendas, ignoring any (sometimes very little) non biased arguments they may contain. But by books I was referring to non-suspect ones, such as The Facts by Paul Begg or the Complete JTR by Donald Rumbleow.

Apologies if I seemed testy earlier, may have been having a bad moment.


You are correct as to how one producer will slant details one way and another team go in an entirely different direction with "the facts", but even authors on any topic create similar bias, it's very difficult not to.

By all means, BOOKS are (should be) the first course of attack whenever someone honestly wants to research an issue/topic. They should in fact be the primary resource that documentaries or video book type reports can cross reference with as a means of "validation". Sadly, we do live in an era in which video/film and Wiki tend to be the assumed authorities simply because so many folks are too damned lazy to dig deeper.

As much as I hated my father for making me do it, I am ever so grateful today that he pushed me into looking things up if and when I had a question about it. It was probably one of the best habits he got me into.

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