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Postby Harris » Apr 3rd, '10, 01:00



I am absolutly fuming.

Really angry.

About seven months ago, I came up with an idea to subtly enhance my performance. I now find out the person who used my template to make the actual thing for me
Is using it freely word for word in places with the same template as the original for promoting sales and is contained within
Another of their effects.

Not one word of credit. Not one.

I'm soooo anal about giving thanks etc to peeps (which prob bugs them lol) and this has really upset me

You magi are all ... Well it will get censored so ...fill the gaps.

Fingers burnt, lesson learnt which is a shame

So don't bother asking me for anything, those who do and you know who you are ...

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Postby Tomo » Apr 3rd, '10, 01:04

Name and shame, mate. Name and bloody shame!

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Postby Flash » Apr 3rd, '10, 01:43

Hey Harris,

Sorry to hear about that, but please don't tar everyone with the same brush. Not everyone on here is a bad apple.

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Postby Harris » Apr 3rd, '10, 07:59

Oh I know not everyone is a bad apple. x

I know some real gents ...

I'm just cross ...

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Postby DrTodd » Apr 3rd, '10, 08:15

Justified in your crossness,and another reason why I have been avoiding them...

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Postby Lee Smith » Apr 3rd, '10, 08:32

Its one of those things Im afraid, as you say lesson learn't Similar things have happened my end, and I learnt the hard way.


Look on the bright side tho, It wont happen again :lol:

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Postby IAIN » Apr 3rd, '10, 09:52

'Arris, theres no shame in naming and shaming...

name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them!

i was speaking to Ron Martin about certain things a few weeks ago - he says "have at it - whats the problem?" meaning if someone is a shyster...let people know it...you're helping the community that way, and only give permission to that person to do it again if they are not 'punished'.

Like a dog really, if it continually s**ts on your armchair and you dont tell it off in front of the family...how will it learn?

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Postby Tomo » Apr 3rd, '10, 10:15

IAIN wrote:'Arris, theres no shame in naming and shaming...

name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them!

i was speaking to Ron Martin about certain things a few weeks ago - he says "have at it - whats the problem?" meaning if someone is a shyster...let people know it...you're helping the community that way, and only give permission to that person to do it again if they are not 'punished'.

Like a dog really, if it continually s**ts on your armchair and you dont tell it off in front of the family...how will it learn?

What he said.

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Postby IAIN » Apr 3rd, '10, 10:21

Tomo wrote:
IAIN wrote:'Arris, theres no shame in naming and shaming...

name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them! name them!

i was speaking to Ron Martin about certain things a few weeks ago - he says "have at it - whats the problem?" meaning if someone is a shyster...let people know it...you're helping the community that way, and only give permission to that person to do it again if they are not 'punished'.

Like a dog really, if it continually s**ts on your armchair and you dont tell it off in front of the family...how will it learn?

What he said.


what he said v.2

also - bearing in mind i dont know what this is about..it could be anyone, and frankly...who cares who he/she is...unfortunately - its now your responsibility to make sure they don't do it to others...and you have to do it publicly...

i hope the moderators understand that point too...like they did when that guy was going rip off Christo's billet pencil...

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Postby Allen Tipton » Apr 3rd, '10, 10:59

As Iain says

NAME 'EM & SHAME 'EM.


IT IS TIME MAGICIANS STOOD UP TO THIEVES


AND IF THEY BELONG TO ANY MAGIC ORGANISATION
SEND DETAILS TO THE RELEVANT COMMITTEES!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Postby Mandrake » Apr 3rd, '10, 12:04

Naming and shaming gets my vote as well.

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Postby Discombobulator » Apr 3rd, '10, 12:35

I invented something a while back (nothing to do with magic) and before I discussed it with anyone I had to get them to sign a non-disclosure agreement. It never actually made it to a patent, but the person I worked with was not able to discuss or use the invention for a number of years without my written permission.

Sorry to hear that you have been betrayed, and I think you have every right to be angry.

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Postby SamGurney » Apr 3rd, '10, 17:13

It's a shame that we live in a world where we have to sign a contract so that our thoughts aren't plaigurised :roll: . It would be nice to think I'm entering a community where I can discuss magic ideas and trust people.. but you can't though. It's always the minority who mess it up for the majority *sigh*. I don't want to sound like a parrot- but it would help everyone if they knew who not to trust. We don't need to keep cleaning our dog's poo from our armchairs.

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Postby spooneythegoon » Apr 3rd, '10, 17:18

SamGurney wrote:It's a shame that we live in a world where we have to sign a contract so that our thoughts aren't plaigurised :roll: . It would be nice to think I'm entering a community where I can discuss magic ideas and trust people.. but you can't though. It's always the minority who mess it up for the majority *sigh*. I don't want to sound like a parrot- but it would help everyone if they knew who not to trust. We don't need to keep cleaning our dog's poo from our armchairs.


I agree, but in reality, it's a bit naive to think that we can trust everyone. So if we don't clean the poo off, we'll end up smellin' of it.

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Postby SamGurney » Apr 3rd, '10, 17:24

But the question is how can we tell who is a poo and who is not a poo? And what armchair they'll poo on?
Ok.. we need to stop this analogy.
But seriously, Lennon's 'imagine' is naive, but true. I have mentioned John Lennon twice in two days.. if only this was a game.

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