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Re: Politics for dummies

Postby Gary Dickson » Apr 5th, '10, 22:22



Beardy wrote:Is anybody here able to summarise in an unbiased view what the three main paties stand for?


The Government is a company - it's not listed in Companies House, but it is on Dunham Bradstreet, a website that lists companies for foreign business concerns, and whether they have a good credit rating, have CCJ's against them, etc (the Ministry of Justice (business number: UC6214811), the company that trades as Magistrates' Court has three! The Ministry of Defence (UC4800606) has eight!). The only purpose of a company is to make a profit. I think it's fairly safe to assume that all three main parties stand for making a profit. Anything else is cosmetics.

I certainly won't be voting. As it is the act of registering to vote that allows the Government to enslave us (ignoring for the moment the fact that as all money is debt then that enslaves us too) my opinion is that those who do register to vote, and indeed vote, want to be slaves.

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Re: Politics for dummies

Postby themagicwand » Apr 5th, '10, 22:58

Gary Dickson wrote: my opinion is that those who do register to vote, and indeed vote, want to be slaves.

Martin Luther King and Emily Pankhurst would like a word.

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Postby IAIN » Apr 5th, '10, 23:13

@Gary - you have a very unique way of looking at things...

in case it escaped your notice - one of the reasons why the BNP got in, was because people were too lazy to vote otherwise...

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Postby Mandrake » Apr 6th, '10, 01:37

The Electoral Rwform Society has been trying for years to get an additional 'None of the Above'box on all ballot papers. This would at least give disenchanted voters the chance to register their feelings and would remove the excuse about not voting because it changes nothing etc.

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Re: Politics for dummies

Postby gillows » Apr 6th, '10, 05:03

Beardy wrote:Is anybody here able to summarise in an unbiased view what the three main paties stand for?


Labour: More of same but you'll pay more tax.

Conservative: Vote them in on Thursday, get your P45 on Friday.

Liberal: Perm any two choices from the above.

Kick off in a couple of hours. Has been announced Gordon Brown going to visit the Baked Bean later today. :wink:

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Postby SamGurney » Apr 6th, '10, 06:31

Well.. pollitics. I'm not going to go on a tangent, promise. :shock:
Well what are different parties saying?
Labour: rhetoric- tories think it is just 'their turn to take over'- look at all the good things we have done. Tories- booo.
Conservatives: Rhetoric and Gordon Brown is an old fart who thinks he can save the world, we are well far superior, innit? swell.
Liberal Democrats- look at those two arguing, we don't argue- which is definitley not because we all know we are not contenders, because we definatley are in with a chance of winning the election, definitley yes, we definitley do (is anyone convinced yet?), but because WE are the best party.. and we might as well not bother with the rhetoric.
And please can we stop with this misconception about 'left' and 'right', 'tis not so black and white. There are many other factors involved.
The thing is that governments are so fundamentally flawed because ideologies all claim eutopian solutions, but in practicality human greed and power gets in the way.
'With our love, we could save the world' are words as true today as they ever were.
I am not voting for any party until (I am old enough and) they sell all our weapons, encourage our allies to put down the proverbial guns to everyone elses heads and use that money to feed, cloth and educate the world over, each human being included, which the money could and would do many times. We would have no enemies to 'protect ourselves from'. Until patriotism and the concept of 'countries' are erradictaed, without these imaginary lines in the sand, there would be nothing to fight about. (vote for me, miss america!) I will not vote until we are ACTUALLY liberal, until we are not controlled, like 'a bewildered herd' were the government tells us they care about us- yeah, they care about us soo much that they get to make our decisions for us, because if we made our own decisions we don't know enough to make the right decisions for us, so we will have it imposed upon us. We are free to do what they tell us. Yay-- god save the queen, now I'm going to read some media frenzy and moan about pollitical correctness and forget that fundamentally we are governed by a state which dictates our actions and drowns us in beaurocracy. If that made any sence to anyone I'll be delighted. So, until those thing happen I won't vote- so.. I probably won't e voting in my life time.
Anyway.. ahem..
I'm not going to go on a tangent, promise.

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Postby Discombobulator » Apr 6th, '10, 09:33

Am I the only one looking forward to the prospect of a hung parliament ?

Politicians actually doing what they feel is right, rather than being told how to vote by their party whips.

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Postby pcwells » Apr 6th, '10, 09:34

Discombobulator wrote:Am I the only one looking forward to the prospect of a hung parliament ?

Politicians actually doing what they feel is right, rather than being told how to vote by their party whips.


Nah. They'll all still be under the thumb of big businesses and lobbyists.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Apr 6th, '10, 09:59

I'm not sure where my vote's likely to go, none of the big 3 have cuaght my attention at all, one I wouldn't touch with a barge pole and the other two I don't think are much better. Probabaly be a Green party vote for me.

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Postby Mandrake » Apr 6th, '10, 13:25

Discombobulator wrote:Am I the only one looking forward to the prospect of a hung parliament ?
I'm also looking forward to a hung parliament and I'll happliy chip in towards the cost of the rope.....

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Postby TheStoner » Apr 6th, '10, 17:04

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Postby kolm » May 4th, '10, 23:22

I'm dragging up this thread to link to this blog post by Stephen Fry. It's a very well thought out and articulated outline of the main three parties and what voting for them means

"People who hail from Manchester cannot possibly be upper class and therefore should not use silly pretentious words"
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Postby IAIN » May 4th, '10, 23:31

kolm wrote:I'm dragging up this thread to link to this blog post by Stephen Fry. It's a very well thought out and articulated outline of the main three parties and what voting for them means


just his opinion though eh...its not like its hard fact...

as much as i love The Fry, he'll have his own bias too, whether he knows it or not...

he'll vote lib dem by the way...it was very well written though :)

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Postby kolm » May 5th, '10, 00:27

IAIN wrote:just his opinion though eh...its not like its hard fact...

Of course. Consider my wrists slapped for not saying that!

"People who hail from Manchester cannot possibly be upper class and therefore should not use silly pretentious words"
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