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So the "Regurgitating Man" on Britain's Got Talent - magic sneaking in via the back door? I think so!

Simon Cowell: "So this isn't magic then? It's not a trick?"
Regurgitating Man: "No, it's real. I was brought up in an orphanage and used to hide my money this way."

Good boy!!!

Can I point out that I believed this to be a real ability... is that not so?

Who else, up until now, believed it to be real?

I missed it,

From what is sounds tho, was this Stevie Starr?

Eshly wrote:Can I point out that I believed this to be a real ability... is that not so?

Who else, up until now, believed it to be real?

The man "swallowed" a pool ball, and also swallowed coins that "clinked" when they hit each other in his stomach. To me it screams trick, but then I'm the cynical kind!

Lee Smith wrote:I missed it,

From what is sounds tho, was this Stevie Starr?

Yep, Stevie Starr. Just done some research - apparently it's a larger than normal base of the mouth, so all items can be hidden beneath his tongue.

Like I said - Good Boy!

Ooh, ooh, and Elshy - take this a lesson in what ludicrous things people are prepared to believe if presented in the right way. The answer to this can be found on the internet - but you believed it anyway. Where does that leave your fear of exposure??

Considering its not famous in anyway... it doesn't affect it.

With exposure videos with over 10,000,000 hits on Youtube, I think I have a good argument behind me. (one video had a total view count of over 35,000,000 across the boards)

find me any close up effect on youtube thats been exposed - and i'll go and perform it in a bar somewhere next week...I'm willing to bet good money no one will say "hang on...seen that on youtube..."

the people who use youtube for magic exposure are a relatively small, but very nerdy group...who'll watch something numerous times...

IAIN wrote:find me any close up effect on youtube thats been exposed - and i'll go and perform it in a bar somewhere next week...I'm willing to bet good money no one will say "hang on...seen that on youtube..."

I will NOT take that bet because you will win. Nuff said.

Eshly wrote:Considering its not famous in anyway... it doesn't affect it.

With exposure videos with over 10,000,000 hits on Youtube, I think I have a good argument behind me. (one video had a total view count of over 35,000,000 across the boards)

Not famous? It's just been on BGT on a Saturday night. Probably 3 times the viewers that anything DB had ever done. And you still believed a man could swallow a pool ball and regurgitate it at will, along with numbered coins. Ponder ye a while.

IAIN wrote:find me any close up effect on youtube thats been exposed - and i'll go and perform it in a bar somewhere next week...I'm willing to bet good money no one will say "hang on...seen that on youtube..."

the people who use youtube for magic exposure are a relatively small, but very nerdy group...who'll watch something numerous times...

I agree, they are small and they are nerdy.

However you're bet is a false one because people look up exposure AFTER they have seen the trick (I still do not want them to do this).

This is why most people who watch the statue of liberty vanish now know how its done.

themagicwand wrote:

Eshly wrote:Considering its not famous in anyway... it doesn't affect it.

With exposure videos with over 10,000,000 hits on Youtube, I think I have a good argument behind me. (one video had a total view count of over 35,000,000 across the boards)

Not famous? It's just been on BGT on a Saturday night. Probably 3 times the viewers that anything DB had ever done. And you still believed a man could swallow a pool ball and regurgitate it at will, along with numbered coins. Ponder ye a while.

I've only seen him do it with goldfish. But thats not my point. When it comes to exposure people look up tricks that are impressive and big, this is not. If a trick is CLEARLY about money and machinery, like Copperfield's Flying, they are more likely to look it up than an ESP routine which 'uses' psychology.

the problem with looking it up after is how would a spectator know a trick was called 'triumph' or 'out of this world' e.t.c?

There branches of magic I know nothing about and am essentially a layman in. Of course, as a magician, there is the inclincation to try and work it out.. say for example escapology. But the one's who perform it well, I have NO care as to how it was done. That is the same with mentalism, close up magic e.t.c.

I'm not prepared to get into a circular argument about the perils (or not) of exposure. I would suggest that the important thing to take from this is the fact that you believed Stevie Starr was genuine. That should impress upon you the nature of belief. You didn't believe him because you're stupid. You believed him because in that moment you could find no other logical explanation for what you had witnessed. That's magic. That's the point to take from this and learn from.

well, who in their right mind says "and now i will perform OOTW for you..."

apart from cretins that is...

if tell people a name of a "trick", some will look them up - but real life normal folk...even if they did - how are they going to find it?

as long as you dont make it look like a magic trick that is...

i remember a blonde haired guy doing this in the 70s/80s - eating goldfish and bringing them back up...its a real skill...

Alright, Eshly, Iain has given me some inspiration. I'll perform 'waving the aces' from Guy Hollingworth's drawing room deceptions and when someone asks 'how did you do that?' (Thats a prediction that they will) I'll say, as a joke, 'get a book by Guy Hollingworth called drawing room deceptions- it's got all my tricks in there'. If anyone goes and looks it up, I will pay you a fiver my friend. And, even if they do and they learn everything within that book.. I think they are no longer a 'layman'.