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What is there to predict?

Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 19:00



Bounjour tout le monde,
I was going to be doing an origional lottery prediction. My inspiration to do it, surpisingly enough, did not come from Derren Brown, at least not in the way you would expect. In discussing this with my friend, who is a lay person, he brought up the problem of it being 'derreny'. I have scince decided not to do it, as although the layout and style would be ENTIRLEY different, the mention of lottery seems at best, like 'that guy with the goatee from tv'... that said, the method/ effect is better which may earn me some browny points from the audience's point of view. The only way I think I would ever dream of doing it is overtly mentioning Derren, in which case I think it comes across as snobbery.
I might like to point out that I am not particularly interested in weather or not it is to the taste of magicians, but weather a lay audience would enjoy it and be able to remember it as a distinctive piece of magic.

Bearing that in mind, what predictions could be made??... I can't really do racehorses (too Derreny- not my style), newspapers (I'm sure that's been done before a few times :lol: ) football matches (if anyone knew my persona that would be the last thing I would 'expertly study')... and I would rather have something entirley against the odds... finally, it is not 'my' prediction, per se, the spectator's make the prediction themselves which has different presentational advantages.

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Re: What is there to predict?

Postby Ted » May 29th, '10, 19:03

SamGurney wrote:what predictions could I make?...

... it is not 'my' prediction, the spectator's make the prediction themselves.


This contradiction has me confused.

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Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 19:05

:lol:
EDIT: what could be predictied

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Postby Ted » May 29th, '10, 19:06

How do you intend to collect and present the spec's prediction. Force?

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Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 19:21

Ted wrote:How do you intend to collect and present the spec's prediction. Force?

Well I'd rather not discuss methodology, but the prediction is of an outcome unknown to both mentalist and spectator which allows the spectator to make the prediction. I don't change their prediction, no, if that's what you were asking.

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Postby IAIN » May 29th, '10, 20:13

what can you predict? well....surely...

anything...all within the right context...

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Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 20:26

Yeah I just can't think of anything significant enough :?

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Postby kartoffelngeist » May 29th, '10, 20:27

What about something a bit more local? Pub quiz or something...

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Re: What is there to predict?

Postby IAIN » May 29th, '10, 20:30

SamGurney wrote:I might like to point out that I am not particularly interested in weather


use your accidental spelling mistake to your advantage...

weather is hard to predict, the experts cant do it for more than a month in advance....

last year on another forum - i predicted the entire summer's weather...and was 95% correct...and i did it three months in advance...

i made a prediction earlier this year with greedoniz, we'll see if it comes true this summer...

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Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 20:38

'I am sensing that the summer will be... hot???' 'Incredible!!'
And by the way, my 'accidental' spelling mistake was a subliminal to make you say that- I have in fact predicted your post in a manilla envelope beforehand :D
No... but this has given me inspiration for something, in a rather obscure way... so thanks :D
I will have them predict the news events on a news chanel rather than newspaper- I shalln't explain why but there is a reason.
EDIT- 'the summer will be c*** (not the best).. the winter will be hot' (for brits)

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Postby Kroots » May 29th, '10, 20:38

The weather is a good suggestion. But only if it is a detailed prediction, such as exact temperature i think.

But Iain is right that anything can be predicted in the right context, you are limitless. What is this prediction for? A publicity stunt? To secure a gig or what?

Depending on the event it is for, maybe you could predict something related to that event.

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Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 20:41

I am filming it.
But it will be a beautiful effect anyways :)
I was just interested in thinking big, and prediction wise what gets much bigger than the Lottery... but hey hey what can I do (8)

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Postby IAIN » May 29th, '10, 20:43

well, the beauty of a prediction is that you can be very wide and varied in it all...it doesnt have to be "HOT"...

1st day be roughly correct, and maybe even "HOT" as a joke and dissapoint people, then exact details of 3 days weather, a little off on one day, and then 2 days spot on...

the BBC site can verify it all for you...

if you mixed that in with the corinda map force thing, it would look like a free choice of anywhere in the world, as well as the temperatures....

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Postby SamGurney » May 29th, '10, 20:55

I might in fact do that one a separate effect and see how it goes down.. Is the Lottery a definate no no?? It relies on a method which I came up with, which does work, although I haven't actually used it in the context of what I am thinking of at the moment, but it is VERY clean if not a little... a lot, bold. I used it to have someone predict the number of seats each party would get in the election and it worked smexily :)

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Postby IAIN » May 29th, '10, 20:58

nothing stopping you using derren as your "in" (teehee urine)...

"remember that guy who used a camera trick to fool the country over the lottery numbers? yeah...well, what would you think if i were to do the same right now, live, in front of you right here, right now?"

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