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I am learning from the cold reading book from Ian Rowland, and have hit the part of The Rainbow Ruse Statments. I have written my own up and it is a first attempt' Here goes:
'' You like to 'get things done' when it comes to doing work or any other of lifes activities, but there are times, where you can become very relaxed and easygoing when certains things need to be done''

What do you think whoever reads this??
Is there any tips you can provide that can/ may make this better??

Thanks
Jon

Just wondered if you could rate this statement out of 10

I think it's a nice statement, I might rephrase it slightly and add some stronger words but that's just me

'' You are very driven and like to 'get things done' when it comes to work or any other of lifes activities, but there are times when you can become very relaxed and easygoing, I might even go as far as to say almost lazy when it comes to certain duties."

A statement out of context, on its own, reads weak. Put it with others in a reading and it becomes very strong. There is nothing wrong with your statement, as long as you deliver it sincerely and naturally, and in the course of a full reading.
Don't get too hooked on individual statements. What matters is a flow of talk and a little sensitivity.

I'd lead with the second part of the statement. I think most people are self-critical; however busy someone is, they probably would like to do more. Much better to say they can be relaxed about getting things done, but will often find they have a strong drive to complete things once they're started" as you're leaving them with the more positive of the two.

I don't do readings, though, so...

How long before CB turns up and disses IR..?

i'll say it...

i think CR is pretty much cr@p unless you're only using it a tiny amount mixed in with a proper system...

john riggs mentions it in one of his books - if a few people discuss their reading and all quote the same kinda thing...they're generally not that stupid and will twig that something was "up"...

As stated, it doesn't feel like it applies to me at all! Nor does Iain's version, although I like his idea of leading with the second part.

The idea about "a drive to see things through once they're started" -- mmm, no. There are an awful lot of people (including yours truly) who have a lifelong history of starting projects and then dropping them or letting them fizzle away. (If you have an astrology book handy, look up the Cardinal quality.)

My version would be something like... "You can be relaxed and easygoing, sometimes even more than you want to be when it comes to work. But when the chips are down and you have to get things done, you can always find the drive and energy to see the job through."

This leaves it up to the person to realise what level of desperation they have to feel before getting serious. A real workaholic will agree that he's "sometimes more relaxed than he wants to be" -- because he wants to be on all the time. A lazybones like me will be pleasantly flattered to hear he really can knuckle down and get on with it when necessary.

The best advice I can give is to take the spirit of the statement and to build your actual patter on-the-fly based on the situation. That's where the most natural use of cold reading comes from - picking up the vibe and feeding it back.

Tomo wrote:The best advice I can give is to take the spirit of the statement and to build your actual patter on-the-fly based on the situation. That's where the most natural use of cold reading comes from - picking up the vibe and feeding it back.

Which is, of course, how real readings are done -- whether it's Tarot, palmistry, runes, or whatever. The reader gets a general meaning first and then puts it into words. There will probably be a few specific, easily remembered phrases linked to each card, rune, etc. (to get the mental juices flowing), but not whole pat statements.

It's a terrific piece of advice (from Craig, was it?) that if you want to do fake readings, the best way to start is to learn a traditional method -- any one of your choice -- and do it for real, the best you can, until you're good at it.

Jon Bloor wrote:I am learning from the cold reading book from Ian Rowland, and have hit the part of The Rainbow Ruse Statments. I have written my own up and it is a first attempt' Here goes:
'' You like to 'get things done' when it comes to doing work or any other of lifes activities, but there are times, where you can become very relaxed and easygoing when certains things need to be done''

What do you think whoever reads this??
Is there any tips you can provide that can/ may make this better??

Thanks
Jon

My first suggestion is to put down the Rowland book if you haven't been studying and PRACTICING Cold Reading and more importantly DOING READINGS for at least a year or two, it is more of an intermediate level of study that has become a "hammer" of sorts, by those who've never done a Reading in their life screaming that "this is how it's really done" (IT'S NOT!)

If you wish to learn about using Color in Readings I'd recommend that you pick up a couple of resources;

1.) The KEN system (you will find parts of this in Ron Martin's "Palm Reader's Notebook"... I highly recommend it and most all of Ron's material).

2.) Aura Reading for Fun & Profit; Psychometry from A-Z by Richard Webster.

3.) Easy Reading Vol. 1 by yours truly.

I believe our own Mark Lewis will inform you that Mr. Rowland has never worked as a working Reader; especially when it comes to those that depend on this skill for their livelihood. Too, from the on-set Mr. Rowland was a cynic with an axe to grind, not someone walking into the environment with an "open mind". To further prove his agenda we find the section in that book which encourages psychic baiting and "abuse"; antics in which magicians are told to go get cheap publicity by harassing those who are typically honest, sincere and hard working individuals.

Don't get me wrong, there are crooks out there but this isn't an area of investigation any novice need step into, it can prove to be VERY dangerous. Even when you have the sort of background that sustains such work, one need be wise and choose who is actually a crook and who isn't preying on the public; contrary to popular belief, not all Readers are con-artists and scammers.

Pardon my tangent

Another important resource is Bob Cassidy's "The Real Work of Cold Reading" treatise that I see as a "Must"

Anywho... this may help.

I agree with Reverend Browning regarding the rather silly Ian Rowland book. It is full of useless twaddle. I know dozens and dozens of professional psychics personally and not one of them uses a single technique in that book.

Trickery is not necessary. Study a good palmistry system properly and use the Tarot is a genuine spiritual way and you won't need to use any of the nonsense in the Rowland book.

The chap has never done a single paid reading in his life and the example in his book that he is so proud of is very weak indeed and just generalised waffle. The public is far too shrewd for that sort of thing.

I would reconmend Black Hart's-tarot made easy for a cheap easy to remeber system to get you into readings. You get a set of tarot and the booklet. His black book 3 is another good entertaining read on hs expereiences as a reader. Review below

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic20433.php

Paul Voodini's reader of minds is again very good value for money. Available from his own site or Lebanon circle. Lebanon circle also has Freddy Valentine's tarot guide, which I haven't read yet, but is getting very good reviews and is very cheap.

http://www.seancenights.co.uk/

http://www.lebanoncircle.co.uk/home.html

Two quick notes:

1.) Another disadvantage to Rowland's book is that it is on every torrent site imaginable.

2.) I second Tarot Made Easy by The Black Hart. One of the very view items that I have purchased from overseas that was worth every cent of the extra postage and customs fee.

not all Readers are con-artists and scammers

But none of them are psychic, right?

bamforth wrote:But none of them are psychic, right?

Worms, the can is open...