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Hey there;)

a friend of mine had an idea after i performed catacalism from alakazam magic..

he wants to make a website like photobucket or something like that and if login there wil be all kinds of normal pictures and ONE picture with the SELECTED card so its a prediction

the handling is like this

a card will be chosen after that a phone or a pc (anything u can see the website on) will go on ...there will be logged on the site and he will show the picture..

-the picture will be a picture of him at home or something holding a card in his hand in front of the camera

-the picture will have a timestamp of the SAME day he performes the effect


thats the first idea to do it



I personaly do not like to bring in the prediction at the end of a selection

so i came up with this,

u type in the link where u got the photo stored
it loads and shows u a picture but with a big login button over the CARD (its a private album) ... so now u see a picture of me with a card in my hand but u dont see the identity of the card only some corners and a little bit white (the corners u see are the none pip corners)

u can lay the phone or keep the screen of pc in view the whole time

after they selected there card u will login to view the full picture...

there you are u see the exact same picture with HIS/HER selected card in your hand..




what version do u like the best and why?

it already exists. Magictao has an item called billboard, which is kind of what your looking for.

Have a chat with Costas to make sure..


http://www.magictao.co.uk/Billboard-By-Marc-Bangert

hey dale;)

its a totally different kind of effect..

whe dont need no prep:P whe can do it everytime of the day every day of the week etc;)

it works on other peoples phones and computer


and its A picture of The performer holding The card they chose its different:D

but thnx

Do you want it to work on any given day, or as a one-off?

Edit: If you want it to work on any given day I might be able to build something custom for you... PM me

This just doesn't sound all that magical to me. I have a couple of reasons why not.

Firstly, it's pretty much been done to death with all the iphone apps like the Penn and Teller card trick, Ellusionist have theirs as well, Marty's Psypic, etc, and I am yet to see anyone actually all that impressed by one of these, and I can probably explain why.

It's the internet.

People are fairly clued up that the internet and computers in general are capable of some fairly complex things.
That's before you even get to the people that know how computers use maths to accomplish pretty much everything they do. The concept of useing someone's own phone is null and void because you are then going to go to a website, one which you are in control of, and they know this.

I put it to you that all this effort will garner no more a reaction than simply doing the picture live right there by bringing out the same card from one of your pockets in front of them, or having them think of a card and it being the only face down card in your face up deck.

There are ways to make people think it's legit and you don't own the website (that it's a popular website such as photobucket). It just takes a few common phishing techniques

hmm i understand

ehmm dont need custom system a friend of mine is coder;)

and believe me this is totally different

Miniolo wrote:Hey there;)

a friend of mine had an idea after i performed catacalism from alakazam magic..

he wants to make a website

Also Miniolo wrote:its a totally different kind of effect..

whe dont need no prep:P whe can do it everytime of the day every day of the week etc;)

it works on other peoples phones and computer


and its A picture of The performer holding The card they chose its different:D

It's hard for me to take this seriously or give any advice as you seem to be giving information that negates what you have already said (if you are wanting to build something, it doesn't yet do anything, so to say you can do it anyday is completely false as you can't yet do it at all, unless you already have this built, in which case why do you want to build it)
Also it seems that every piece of advice is not good enough or up to your standards, hence the recurring emote, seems kinda smug. I'll wish you good luck and leave you to it.

Miniolo wrote:hmm i understand

ehmm dont need custom system a friend of mine is coder;)

and believe me this is totally different

Then what are you wanting from us? Advice that you can ignore, solutions you can turn down..?

I fail to see the point?

Chapter 16 of RRTCM has all you would ever need to perform this, all you need is a pack of cards...

i described two ways of the effect and i wanted u guys to give ure oppinion about which method u like better and why;)

In that case I like neither.

They can both be written off as computer trickery.

An alternative would be to have someone go to the website and log in before the card is chosen. They then keep this to themselves while the other participant has his free choice of card.

The handling would have to be something special though otherwise the solution would be startlingly obvious.

Miniolo wrote:hey dale;)

its a totally different kind of effect..

whe dont need no prep:P whe can do it everytime of the day every day of the week etc;)

it works on other peoples phones and computer


and its A picture of The performer holding The card they chose its different:D

but thnx

Hi Miniolo,

being the creator of Billboard, I wonder where you got your copy of Billboard and how well you studied it before you came to the conclusion that is a totally different kind of effect.

Just to clarify each statement you made in order to distinguish your idea and method from Billboard:

- Billboard does not need no prep (Maybe this is being confused with "Tube", another great effect that pretty much accomplishes what Miniolo has in mind (even using video!) and that requires some prepping (outs, uploading))

- Billboard can be done anytime, anywhere, every day of the week, on any equipment with an internet connection, with borrowed computers/phones and no further prep or reset. Nothing needs to be installed either

- it works on other peoples phones and computer (maybe this is now being confused with yet another effect, thought capture?)

- Even the gimmick (the little something the spec does not see) can be borrowed a right before the actual performance begins

- Billboard is not even limited to playing cards. You do not even have to make up your mind as to whether you want a card, word, person, or time prediction, before you start the effect. Not even that needs to be prepped. It is all done and set during the secret move (which can be quicker than 2 seconds and which I am sure you are familiar with as I understand you have read Billboard before posting your verdict about it).

- The photo in Billboard DOES have a timestamp showing it was taken the day before the performance (same day is also possible, but one-ahead to me seems more versatile in various performing situations). And the timestamp DOES update itself automatically, so really no prep work necessary at all





One difference I see is whether the picture shows a scene with a Billboard with the card on it, or a picture of the performer holding the card.

Both can be done with the Billboard framework (and many more options). The Photo of the Billboard is just a starter kid for those who buy the effect - they will receive upgrades and other revelation "themes" through the billboard software forum (and can even request special versions). In fact, I believe the "performer holding up the information" option is actually already mentioned in the book, as one of several examples.


Another difference may be your idea using a login prompt partially covering the image - to give the spec the impression he is already seeing the image before he even chose the card.
With Billboard, we came up with a different solution for the same psychological end: In one handling of Billboard, the spec actually HAS seen the image with the revelation SEVERAL times before he even chose his card (or chose his anything) - he just has not paid proper attention to it until the time comes. (With this handling I've had people swear afterwards that it was because they must have noticed what they apparently saw on the image, which in turn actually influenced themselves to choose what they had chosen - this is so much fun...)


cheers
Marc