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Could somebody please tell me how Peter Marvey is producing cards in this video from about 3:20 onwards (and point me towards where I could learn this): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YguJ5tMY ... re=related

I started manipulation about a year ago and have worked through the Jeff Mcbride videos... and this is one of the great mysteries left to me - it looks stunning.

I hate to break it too you but most (if not all) of that is in the McBride series of Card Manipulation. He just does it well enough that you don't recognize it.

bmat wrote:I hate to break it too you but most (if not all) of that is in the McBride series of Card Manipulation. He just does it well enough that you don't recognize it.

I'm talking about where he is producing the cards whilst spreading his fingers. I know what you are talking about, it seems like a variation of the Million Dollar production, but it still doesn't add up.

He has had a bilateral amputation and keeps all the stuff hidden inside his false but realistic looking arms.

We don't give away secrets on this forum, but if you've worked / are working through McBride Manipulation - then you should be able to build a solid act.
Perhaps you should ask for some alternative recommendations to look at for manipulation.
I've also got, a book
Lewis Ganson - Routined Manipulation
and a dvd by Julianna Chen - very different, but interesting.

Jing wrote:We don't give away secrets on this forum, but if you've worked / are working through McBride Manipulation - then you should be able to build a solid act.
Perhaps you should ask for some alternative recommendations to look at for manipulation.
I've also got, a book
Lewis Ganson - Routined Manipulation
and a dvd by Julianna Chen - very different, but interesting.

Okay, the wording of the initial post was a tad ambiguous, but it wasn't asking for the secret - it was asking for the source of the secret, so that particular book or DVD or whatever could be purchased and studied.

To clarify, the message was thus:
Does anyone recognise this move? Where can I learn it?

There was no need for the wagging finger of shame.

Pete

Thanks pcwells. It seems like others have missed the point of the initial post and have resorted to a quasi-arrogance which I typically see on this forum when people ask for critique or for help.

Just to clarify, I have been doing manipulation for several months and so I do have some idea about it. I'm not looking for another book, I'm looking about how to do a certain move.

Take that video above to about 3:38 and you will see Marvey spreading his fingers out, produce a card, show his hand clean and repeat. I would love to be able to perform this move and can't fathom how it is done so can't teach myself.

In fact I'm beginning to believe that nobody here knows how it is done.

I'm sure we all know how we could do it. Just not how it's done by him.

Cerulean wrote: resorted to a quasi-arrogance which I typically see on this forum when people ask for critique or for help.

There are a few, but thankfully they're in the minority

Anyway, the fingers wide production uses a special gimmick which, as far as im aware, is no longer for sale. I read somewhere that Peter had a limited edition booklet (some time ago) which detailed how to construct the gimmick. Theres bound to be one or two of these floating around, but i suspect the price would be very high. Perhaps you could try contacting Peter ?

jim

jim ferguson wrote:

Cerulean wrote: resorted to a quasi-arrogance which I typically see on this forum when people ask for critique or for help.

There are a few, but thankfully they're in the minority

Anyway, the fingers wide production uses a special gimmick which, as far as im aware, is no longer for sale. I read somewhere that Peter had a limited edition booklet (some time ago) which detailed how to construct the gimmick. Theres bound to be one or two of these floating around, but i suspect the price would be very high. Perhaps you could try contacting Peter ?

jim

Thanks a lot for this answer Jim. I suspected something of the sort (if you watch his other hand during the sequence you will see something going on), it's just impossible otherwise.

Do you happen to remember the name or some sort of identifier for this gimmick? I've never had a good experience with contacting people like Peter, but I'll give it a try.

Thanks a lot anyway, I finally get a useful answer. So much for the 2nd post that seemed to think it was covered in Mcbride's series.

Just did a google search but couldnt find anything on this gimmick at all. It did turn up a similar conversation at the cafe though in which the booklet is mentioned, but not by name. It also mentions that it was released in Sweden, which doesnt help, and will probably make it even harder to find.

jim

jim ferguson wrote:Just did a google search but couldnt find anything on this gimmick at all. It did turn up a similar conversation at the cafe though in which the booklet is mentioned, but not by name. It also mentions that it was released in Sweden, which doesnt help, and will probably make it even harder to find.

jim

I just found the topic too, somebody says they asked Marvey about it and he deflected the question. Perhaps I will have to switch on my brain and try to work out how this was performed myself. The video does give something away if one watches carefully, it appears as if cards are appearing in his other hand but I can't understand the implications of this! If anyone on this forum can help, please PM me

Cerulean wrote:Thanks pcwells. It seems like others have missed the point of the initial post and have resorted to a quasi-arrogance which I typically see on this forum when people ask for critique or for help.

Which is a fine way to get people's backs up. But as you were

Just to clarify, I have been doing manipulation for several months

And some members here have been doing manipulation for several years, some even several decades

I'm not looking for another book, I'm looking about how to do a certain move.

It's been made clear already by somebody else that you won't be given the answers here, either in public, in the secrets area, or through PM

In fact I'm beginning to believe that nobody here knows how it is done.

I'm sure at least one poster in this thread does

Now you can't resist coming along and speaking down - this thread is finished (I found my answer), no thanks to you, yet arrogant 'magicians' like you can't resist the chance to come along and sneer.

I know people in this forum have been doing manipulation for decades. I would be surprised if they hadn't, seeing as manipulation has been around for centuries. I wasn't trying to compare myself to anybody, just point out that I didn't want to be recommended Jeff McBride again.

Well, I found most of the answers I needed on the Magic Cafe, so I think I'll migrate to there instead. Instead of screwing around, the users there actually answered the question of the poster (which was identical to mine) and seemed a lot more knowledgeable besides. This is the last time I make a request on this forum.

Regards

Which just about sums up the propblem. Thread locked and attitude noted.