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Postby morrowsean » Oct 10th, '10, 15:01



Hi, Just created my 1st Youtube video on "The Wild Card Effect". Just looking for any Comments/Opinions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMngfr1SkMw&sns=em

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Postby magicdiscoman » Oct 10th, '10, 15:15

ok I'm not a cardie but you need to do a card show thing at the front to show all jacks, just telling me that there all jacks but some are fac down meens to me there tens in the first place.
secondly when you put the jacks on top you telegraphed the move under cover of the jacks, more practise is needed to handle the cards smoothly, cameras unlike spectators don't follow missdirectiion. :)

you could well have cut the first half of the video and showed the jacks and the tens then made the jacks transform into tens to achieve the same result to the spec.

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Postby jim ferguson » Oct 10th, '10, 17:49

I agree with Discoman in that you should really do a Hamman count type display to show the faces at the start, and also work on the smoothness. You should check out Peter Kanes Gypsy Curse (which is essentially what you're doing) for ideas.
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Postby bmat » Oct 11th, '10, 17:27

I disagree, you do not need to show all the cards as jacks, you just need to imply it, such as, here I have a pile of jacks, First one goes face up the second face down, the next face up...blah, blah, blah, Spectators do not know what is coming so they have no reason to question anything. But that comes with experience.

I do agree that you telegraphed that one move under cover and all you have to do to correct that is practice some more, make it smoother. And yes you could have cut out the first part of the effect and made it more direct.

Gypsy curse is something you should check out because it has comes with some nifty cards and a great story. That way you are not telling the spectators what you are doing as you are doing it. They are not blind they can see what you are doing. By spinning the gypsy curse story you are moving into the realm of entertainment and not just magic. You don't have to use gyspy curse's story, but it will make a good teaching aid of what you can do with such a simplistic, beautiful effect.

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Postby jim ferguson » Oct 11th, '10, 19:19

bmat wrote:I disagree, you do not need to show all the cards as jacks, you just need to imply it, such as, here I have a pile of jacks, First one goes face up the second face down, the next face up...blah, blah, blah
    Nah, in certain effects Id agree that things need only be implied, in this case however I think the cards can and should be displayed at the start. Surely it is stronger to show them the cards are Jacks rather than just telling them ?
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Postby bmat » Oct 11th, '10, 21:51

I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong. :lol: (Sorry I couldn't help myself).

I imagine it comes down to performing style, how it is framed and all that usual stuff. Perhaps as a stand alone it would be nice to display the cards. I've performed variations of this for years and have never run into a problem. There is an Effect Especially wild, or is it ESP wild anyway it has been on the market for quite some time and I perform it quite regularly and really it doesn't need the display at the beginning, in fact it would probably take away from the effect. Again, like gypsy curse it is dressed up really nice. I just hate when magicians over prove themselves. It makes the effect longer than necessary and invites a challange.

Again it all comes down to style.

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Postby jim ferguson » Oct 11th, '10, 22:24

I wouldnt say that showing the cards at the start is overproving :) . I do agree however that style, and ones particular presentation plays a huge part. When I said that Marrowsean ''should really do'' etc, what I really should have said was that ''I'' would do it such and such a way, and not that it SHOULD be done that way. Diffirent strokes and all that :)
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