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Fake gun real bang.

Postby Jean » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:03



I'm looking for a fake gun that makes a very loud bang when fired. Airzookas seem like they're loud enough but don't look the part, and cap guns aren't loud enough.

It has to look like a real gun or close enough, it also has to be completely safe to fire.

Any thoughts?

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Postby DaveM » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:07

Will a starter pistol do?

I remember a mate of mine walked in and bought one at a local sports shop years ago but I have no idea if it is still possible.

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Postby Ant » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:13

A friend of mine had a couple of replica handguns that could fire blanks but he could never source the blanks.

Not sure if they are still available now the handgun laws have tightened so much, I'll ask him when I next speak to him.

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Postby Ted » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:15

A starter pistol is most definitely not "completely safe". What are you trying to achieve, and what is the scenario?

EDIT: Replica guns are illegal in most situations now, although theatrical presentations are one exception.

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Postby DaveM » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:18

Ted wrote:A starter pistol is most definitely not "completely safe". What are you trying to achieve, and what is the scenario?

EDIT: Replica guns are illegal in most situations now, although theatrical presentations are one exception.


I believe he said "completely safe to fire". Starter pistols are still used and it is worth checking to see what the requirements to own and use one are.

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Postby Ted » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:20

I know, Dave. Starter pistols are not completely safe to fire. No blank-firing gun is. That's why I asked about the scenario.

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Postby Jean » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:34

Yeah I thought about starter pistols and 'blanks' but as I understand it they still fire something and can possibly hurt someone so those are no good. If a starter pistols doesn't fire anything that might work.

The gun doesn't have to look completely authentic just good enough to seem real at first glance.

I'm going to be shooting it at relatively close range directly at someone so safety is a must.

I can't tell you exactly what I'm going to be using this for as this is a public area, but hypotheticaly imagine I walked into a bank fired the gun in the air and told everyone to hit the floor. In this completely hypothetical situation I need it to look and sound real enough for everyone to cooperate but if I'm caught I need to be able to prove that I had no means or intent to harm anyone.

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Postby Lawrence » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:40

What the hell are you thinking?
You're likely to be shot yourself!

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Postby Jean » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:42

Also does anyone know where I can buy a bullet proof vest.

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Postby jim ferguson » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:45

A bank robbery and a bullet proof vest ? Im intriuged :)


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    Postby Jean » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:48

    jim ferguson wrote:A bank robbery and a bullet proof vest ? Im intriuged :)


      What? Where did you get that idea? I said it's completely hypothetical.

      On an unrelated subject would you be interested in pretending to get shot for a performance I'm doing? I'm not sure how much I'll get payed but I'll give you 20% of the profit.

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      Postby jim ferguson » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:51

      :lol: :lol: :lol:


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        Postby .robb. » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:55

        Blank pistols are used to train hunting dogs. Dead bird or scent is planted. Dog is walked near the bird. Dog points. Trainer launches the bird or dummy into the air and fires the pistol. Dog retrieves. You get the idea.

        Anyway, while they look like any other hand gun, the barrel is not hollow. In fact, it's only a barrel in the sense that it looks like a barrel from the outside. There are only firing caps- powder and a primer. The hammer/firing pin is internal on most models. The cap is the size of a watch battery. There is no shell or casing. There is no shot or bullet. There isn't a projectile of any kind and even if there were, there's no where for it to go. I never really understood why the were modeled after the real thing to begin with. All the dog needs in the bang sound.

        About the only physical damage it could do is to temporary deafen someone, but that would be near their head in a small closed area.

        Regardless, you always treat it as a loaded weapon.

        The laws and ethics of whatever you are doing are on you. Just think everything through and consider every little aspect.

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        Postby Jean » Nov 23rd, '10, 18:59

        Thanks robb I'll look into blanks, all joking aside this is for theatrical purposes. And I've been shot with a BB gun twice, I hated it, I don't treat even fake guns like toys (except of course actual toy guns). Any advice on the law regarding purchasing one?

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        Postby Ted » Nov 23rd, '10, 19:37

        In the UK you can't buy a realistic-looking pistol. Remember those replicas that people used in armed robberies? They are banned. You *can* buy brightly-coloured guns for playing airsoft, they they are usually bright orange.

        There is a legal exception. You can buy realistic replicas for theatrical performance. Contact a site like http://www.eliteshootingcentre.co.uk/ to find out what proof you'll need to provide.

        Hope that helps, and be bloody careful. People *have* been shot by the police in this country while carrying replica firearms.

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