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I've had a few PMs moaning about posts which refer to the lack of spelling and grammar in other posts; apparently we're all supposed to know what they mean even if they didn't actually make it clear. I noticed this quote recently:

What is written without effort is in general read without pleasure.
Samuel Johnson
English author, critic, & lexicographer (1709 - 1784)

I think it sums things up very nicely !

Thank god someone else posted to that rant before I did... again

Mandrake wrote:I've had a few PMs moaning about posts which refer to the lack of spelling and grammar in other posts; apparently we're all supposed to know what they mean even if they didn't actually make it clear. I noticed this quote recently:

What is written without effort is in general read without pleasure.
Samuel Johnson
English author, critic, & lexicographer (1709 - 1784)

I think it sums things up very nicely !

"To make dictionaries is very dull work" - same bloke.

Yesterday I could not spell magician.
Today I are one.

Thats a coincidence,cos i is won two.

deano

kolm wrote:Thank god someone else posted to that rant before I did... again

I question your use of an ellipsis there

Lawrence wrote:

kolm wrote:Thank god someone else posted to that rant before I did... again

I question your use of an ellipsis there

Perfectly fine according to Mr Fry

i own all the ellipses I'm afraid...

kolm used 'em correctly though...to leave a sentence or statement open for debate, trailing off a specific train of thought, or to indicate a natural pause in speech...

...

so there...

I didn't say she was wrong... just that I question it.


We could restart the "grammar police" thread so that we can point and laugh at anyone who uses things like "should of"; or people who end a sentence with a preposition, it's what it was all about.

Some of the sentiments shared here, are quite touching

Thanks to the Tx-speak culture and (in the U.S. at least) failing public education issues (more akin to lost priorities by so-called "educators" more than the kids) this is a problem that's likely to become a plague before it gets much better. Not only do the young people need to find pride in themselves that will get them to wake-up to such "needs" but their parents likewise need to thunk them on the nogg'n every once in a while (especially in those teen years) to jog the grey-matter enough to maybe wake them up long enough to realize how proper knowledge of such things allows you greater ease in accomplishing one's dreams.

There is one other "issue" we face however, that has nothing to do with student lethargy and everything to do with the international flavor the internet brings to larger/popular forums; the frightening fact that English isn't the primary language for much of the world's population (I know, it's truly a frightening truth) and to that end, there are certain language translators (software) that simply don't get the job done I think it fortuitous that TM's membership has (via a "hard-knocks" sense of discovery) learned how to separate this factor from the aforementioned though it is the sort of hurdle that must be kept in mind when mulling the issue.

One other thing I nearly forgot... We Americans are still waiting for your Brits to learn how to speak proper English and use the approved mode of spelling -- hell, it's THEATER not THEATRE (even my spellchecker says so)

Craig Browning wrote::lol: Some of the sentiments shared here, are quite touching

Thanks to the Tx-speak culture and (in the U.S. at least) failing public education issues (more akin to lost priorities by so-called "educators" more than the kids) this is a problem that's likely to become a plague before it gets much better. Not only do the young people need to find pride in themselves that will get them to wake-up to such "needs" but their parents likewise need to thunk them on the nogg'n every once in a while (especially in those teen years) to jog the grey-matter enough to maybe wake them up long enough to realize how proper knowledge of such things allows you greater ease in accomplishing one's dreams.

There is one other "issue" we face however, that has nothing to do with student lethargy and everything to do with the international flavor the internet brings to larger/popular forums; the frightening fact that English isn't the primary language for much of the world's population (I know, it's truly a frightening truth) and to that end, there are certain language translators (software) that simply don't get the job done I think it fortuitous that TM's membership has (via a "hard-knocks" sense of discovery) learned how to separate this factor from the aforementioned though it is the sort of hurdle that must be kept in mind when mulling the issue.

One other thing I nearly forgot... We Americans are still waiting for your Brits to learn how to speak proper English and use the approved mode of spelling -- hell, it's THEATER not THEATRE (even my spellchecker says so)

tl;dr

Jeez. I'm finally able to take a whole week's holiday from proofreading, and this is what you start talking about?

Mandrake wrote:(Mandrake chuckles quiety and puts his wooden spoon away - for the time being... )

"Quiety", Mr Mandrake?

If there was a stern emoticon I would use it

kolm wrote:tl;dr

Hahaha! That's a new one for me