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The holy grail of mentalism

Postby Beardy » Jan 11th, '11, 01:54



For the last 2 years my holy grail that I have been trying to find is a 3 phase coin-in-hand routine that is genuinely impromptu (doesn't even have to be a coin), can be done anywhere, anytime, and is completely fullproof, without any chance of failure, as well as looking completely fair.

In 2 years I have now come up with 2 of those phases, and am very happy.

Do you guys have any "holy grails" that you have been searching for? I really like the coin in hand for example...I just dont want props that look proppy, or damn magnets up my ass!

What grails are you in search for?

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Re: The holy grail of mentalism

Postby kolm » Jan 11th, '11, 02:28

Beardy wrote:I just dont want props that look proppy, or damn magnets up my ass!

Gah, that chapter isn't in the version of Bobo I have :(

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Postby .robb. » Jan 11th, '11, 02:44

Congrats on tackling the first two hurdles.

i have/had two goals with the Si Stebbins. The first goal was to stack it from NDO in front of specs via shuffles but without the use of faros. I've achieved that. The second goal is to stream line the so-called Chinese Shuffle version of getting to SS from a shuffled deck. That's not been easy to figure out. I've come up with a way to eliminate three steps of it but it requires the performance of a trick to do so. If one is to go that route, you might as well as do the ballsy Nikoli stack trick from EoCT.

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Postby Jean » Jan 11th, '11, 08:27

For me the holy grail isn't an effect but a place. A forrest where I and other like minded individuals can perform a new type of magical theater. Where the audiance are not watching a show but taking part in an adventure in a land where magic, ghosts, goblins deamons and fairys are real.

I want to create a Narnia here on earth.

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Postby TonyB » Jan 11th, '11, 12:09

My holy grail would be a Q&A act with no pre-show work.

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Postby Tomo » Jan 11th, '11, 13:21

I want to control the forces of nature! :D

Failing that, I want to be able to genuinely reach in and directly pluck thoughts from the minds of a random strangers. There's nothing more shocking or impressive to humanity, other than horror.

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Postby Craig Browning » Jan 11th, '11, 17:09

EXSQUEEZE ME. . .BUT how is a coin manipulation effect "Mentalism"?

It's a freak'n close-up routine... a magic routine NOT MENTALISM!

I so wish folks would learn the bloody difference... then again some dope recently posted over at the Cafe that DAVID COPPERFIELD was a "Mentalist"... which I'm certain gave David & his staff a huge laugh given the fact that he's been an actual ILLUSIONIST (a guy that does big, expensive box tricks) for over 30 years now.

I'm starting to understand why Vernon & John Platt rolled their eyes in disgust when young people mis-applied terms back in the day. :roll:

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Postby Lenoir » Jan 11th, '11, 17:11

Guessing which hand a coin in? You'll find that quite a few mentalists do it to incredible reactions.

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Postby Ted » Jan 11th, '11, 17:24

Indeed, and as Beardy said in his original post, it doesn't have to be just coins.

I'm sure Craig will like my next mentalism release, the working title of which is: PBW: Psychokinetic Breakaway Wand. "Using just the power of your mind you can slice through wood!"

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Postby Demitri » Jan 11th, '11, 18:51

Hey Craig, maybe rub your eyes and read Beardy's post again - at no point was the word MANIPULATION used.

Beardy, I'd love to hear more about how your routine plays. Sounds great.

Not sure what my holy grail is... have to think about that for a bit.

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Postby SamGurney » Jan 11th, '11, 19:56

I don't care what people are doing as long as they're doing it well.

(Which Beardy probably won't :P ... I jest :lol: )

There are many effects for which I want better methods. But none are holy grails; Ideas for effects to which methods are difficult to think of I am not in want of; I have no aptitude for coming up with ingenious contemporary presentations of old effects and that would probably be much more valuable to me.

But in reality my real holy grail, is to design an effect idea, a presentation for it and the performance skills to be given a raw canvass of an audience and to paint on it a new vision of life, the world and the happiness they could achieve if only they looked within themselves- to take a grown man concealed by the armery of pretentions and corrode his shell to beautiful tears; the antecedent of a ecstatic climax whose emotions charge the audience with an ephiphany, a lightening bolt which luminates the cave, stunns our shut eyes to see beyond the shadows of our abject existences and to induce orgasm even in the most stoical of pious nuns.

That.. and the Berglas effect.

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Re: The holy grail of mentalism

Postby Part-Timer » Jan 11th, '11, 20:18

Beardy wrote:is completely fullproof


Ahh, the irony.

Beardy wrote:I just dont want props that look proppy, or damn magnets up my ass!


What has that donkey ever done to you?

I typed something serious on this, but I want to have more of a think about my response before I post it.

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Postby Edantes » Jan 11th, '11, 20:24

But in reality my real holy grail, is to design an effect idea, a presentation for it and the performance skills to be given a raw canvass of an audience and to paint on it a new vision of life, the world and the happiness they could achieve if only they looked within themselves- to take a grown man concealed by the armery of pretentions and corrode his shell to beautiful tears; the antecedent of a ecstatic climax whose emotions charge the audience with an ephiphany, a lightening bolt which luminates the cave, stunns our shut eyes to see beyond the shadows of our abject existences and to induce orgasm even in the most stoical of pious nuns.

That.. and the Berglas effect.


Very poetic and profound :)


I don't really have a holy grail as such, but again there are effects I can't think of methods for that I've been working on for years.

It'll be just my luck that as soon as I think of something I'll realise it's been printed a million times before and I'd just forgotten it :P

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Re: The holy grail of mentalism

Postby kolm » Jan 11th, '11, 20:33

Part-Timer wrote:I typed something serious on this, but I want to have more of a think about my response before I post it.


Me too. And here it is

Like Tomo, I want to be able to genuinely read someone's mind

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Postby phillipnorthfield » Jan 11th, '11, 20:49

A progressive anagram of the 50 most popular thought of words, that doesn't seem like one....

...one day... one day

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