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Hey there, Im relatively new to card magic have spent a lot of time recently practicing the DL and have improved a lot at it. I don't have many tricks for it though and was wondering would any of you know the names of good tricks using the DL that I should research? Appreciate any help!

Thank you!

Hi. The thing is, because you have asked for effects which use the DL, naming any is going to be exposure.

There are books which you will find recomended throughout the forum, Mark Wilsons and Royal Road are usually top of the list. These can be bought VERY cheaply and will give you an exellent start. You'll also find plenty of uses for your DL.

jim

I would suggest buying Daryl's ambitious card routine DVD.

I would suggest a different angle of attack. Rather than learn a sleight and then find tricks that go with that sleight. Find an effect you like and learn the sleights that are necessary for that trick. After all it is the effect the audience sees, not the sleight, at least that is the hope.

There are about 15,000 + tricks with a DL.
Look in some books on card magic and there will be some in there.
Royal Road to Card Magic, is a good one.

Great thanks for the help guys!

Lawrence wrote:I would suggest buying Daryl's ambitious card routine DVD.

Agreed!

Bmat, I have to disagree, you are proberly infinitly more experienced than me, but if you pick the trick to learb the sleight are you not just a trickster, for instance, Royal road to card magic teached the sleight, then the trick.

I read somewhere a quote, I think it goes something like this,

(a child to a famous magician)

Child: Mrmr I know 10o tricks, how many do you know,

Magician: I know 5 tricks but a million things i can do with them.


To truly respect the art of Magic, surely the sleight comes in over the trick, the trick is just a seasonal dress that changed frequently after all. (yes dress, not trousers, so what )

Bmat can answer for himself, natch, but the point here is that magic should start with the effect, rather than the method. With so much information out there for the buying, it makes sense to apply that approach to learning magic too; too see an effect you would like to learn, and then learn the sleights that will accomplish it.

i see that as true for getting into magic but once your there is the method not what we hold secret there fore the core of magic,

The method is just there to serve the effect, and the effect trumps pretty much everything.

A million dollars is worthless if you don't have anywhere to spend it.

Method is absolutly uselss if we don't have something to apply it too. So you spend 6 months learning Gary Kurtz's Longnitudal finger tip palm. Then you go looking for some effects in which to use the sleight, but sadly all fall short. You wasted 6 months.

Obviously there are basics that you 'need' to learn

Yes there are books like Card College that deal mostly with method, however these are and were written as refrence books. (So was Royal Road to some extent) So if you find an effect you like, but the instructions are carp (as many are) you can look up the method in Card College which will probably be a little clearer.

Personally, if you are a performing magician, not an arm chair magician, (nothing wrong with that) then you are going to waste a lot of time learning methods that you won't use.

Lets use you as an example. You asked for tricks that use a DL. Why? because you have learned a technique and now have nothing to show for it. (obviously you have something to show for it, keep with me for a moment...and yes you should be learning the DL.) It would have been more 'economical' for you to find a trick you really like, say Dai Vernon's Twisting The Aces. Wow! Amazing! says you, "I have to learn that!' Now you are forced to learn a DL and an Elmsley Count. Now you have a brilliant effect under your belt, and you have learned two moves to put in your arsenal. Even if you never ever use them for anything else, you have them for Twisting the Aces which you use all the time.

Magic is not about method. You are looking at it from a magicians point of view so method is near and dear to your heart. But look at it from the spectators point of view. Magic is about wonder! It doesn't matter how the effect is acomplished, it just has to be done well, it has to be pleasing to watch. It is the sense of wonder that we need to hold close to our hearts, not the method, not even the effect.

The trick to being a great magicians is to choose, or create effects that suit ourselves and then perform them in the most amazing way possible, using whatever technique works for you.

The Great magicians don't utilize a dozen sleights they don't perform a zillion effects, they perform a routine and they do it amazingly well.

When I say go watch the greats I don't mean purchase a dvd which is directed at other magicians. Go find performances of them in front of live real audiences.

It is not the method, it is not even the trick, it is the sense of wonder that you create in somebody elses head, that is where the magic happens, it is never in the hands.

The difference between a trickster and a magician is that a trickster shows effects as puzzles for the most part, and with a 'see what I can do and you can't' attitude. A magicians creates wonder for his/her audience. How you learn will not define which catagory you fall into.

1) Find/Create the effect you like.
2) Learn how to do it.
3) Refine it to your style/ make it your own.
4) Use it to create a magical experience for your audience.

I'm not saying my opinion works for everyone, it just makes more sense if you want to go out and perform.

Sorry this is long, if your still reading this, YOU ROCK!