Sleight mentioned in 'Confessions of a Conjuror'

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Sleight mentioned in 'Confessions of a Conjuror'

Postby cc100 » Jan 15th, '11, 14:58



Hello,

I was wondering about a sleight mentioned in Derren Brown's book 'Confessions of a Conjuror'. He describes a trick where he takes 3 cards and puts then back into a fanned deck. He then does a sleight which makes it look like he pushes them in and cuts the deck, but in fact the three cards are at the top of the deck. Does anyone know the name of this move? I think he said it was invented by Dai Vernon, might be wrong though as I don't have the book to hand.

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Postby Lawrence » Jan 15th, '11, 15:05

You should buy The Devil's Picturebook and Derren will show you all you need to know

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Postby cc100 » Jan 15th, '11, 15:39

I was thinking of buying that, but I've read on here that the Derren's explanations 'are not for the faint hearted'. Can you actually learn from it, as in does he take you through the moves step by step? I'm pretty much a beginner, so I'm questioning whether to spend £40 or so on something that isn't going to help me that much. Of course, these are just assumptions. I'd appreciate any comments from people that have bought it and their views on it.

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Postby DaveM » Jan 15th, '11, 16:30

He refers to it as the Shift by Dai Vernon. It's a lot harder than it he makes it look. When I try to finish the cut off, it's blatant what I have done and is taking a lot of practice.

I suggest you buy the DVD. It is for the more advanced but unlike a book, at least you can slow it down and actually see it. I found the DVD eye opening and it has made me a better card magician. It is more than worth the price.

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Postby Edantes » Jan 15th, '11, 16:42

The sleight you mention is Dai Vernon's Multiple Shift.

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Postby Robbie » Jan 15th, '11, 16:44

The Devil's Picturebook is advanced material, but at least it can give you something to aim for. Sometimes it's good to be exposed to things beyond your current reach.

There's more to it than just a list of tricks. You can absorb some very good information about style and presentation. I too would say go for it if you can afford it. It's WAY beyond my technical expertise, but I find it both enjoyable and inspiring.

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Postby jim ferguson » Jan 15th, '11, 16:56

Yes, its a multiple shift. There are many versions found throughout the literature, theres a couple in Expert Card Technique. The one Derren uses doesnt get the cards to the top during the action - the cards are shifted to the bottom and are then cut to the top.
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Postby daleshrimpton » Jan 15th, '11, 17:10

full credit of the sleight, is in the book. Its one of those adendum things at the bottom of the page.

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Postby twistedjester » Jan 15th, '11, 23:21

Edantes wrote:The sleight you mention is Dai Vernon's Multiple Shift.

Actually its called D'Amico multiple shift its explained and shown on jeff mcbrides the art of card manipulation volume 1

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Postby jim ferguson » Jan 16th, '11, 00:19

twistedjester wrote:
Edantes wrote:The sleight you mention is Dai Vernon's Multiple Shift.

Actually its called D'Amico multiple shift its explained and shown on jeff mcbrides the art of card manipulation volume 1
    In Pure Effect Derren credits the move to Vernon.
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Postby SpareJoker » Jan 16th, '11, 15:01

I thought it was the TPC (Tamariz Perpendicular Control), no?

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Postby Lenoir » Jan 16th, '11, 16:52

SpareJoker wrote:I thought it was the TPC (Tamariz Perpendicular Control), no?


No. Definitely what is generally referred to as the Vernon Multiple Shift.

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Postby Heavy on the Magik » Jan 16th, '11, 23:41

Is there anywhere you can learn this move? Other than DB's Picturebook ?

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Postby phillipnorthfield » Jan 17th, '11, 00:23

I think Lennart Green has it somewhere? It's in his FISM act from watching the performance. It's not really a difficult move, and the original single card shift is in Expert at the Card table. You can use the same technique for multiple cards and it works exactly the same.

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Postby bamforth » Jan 17th, '11, 03:17

There are a few methods in Card College Volume 3 Chapter 34

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