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Ok I don't own either of these two devices but wanted everyones opinion on these devices now I've heard a lot of bad things on the gecko but not much on the dragon bang vanisher. So let me hear yall voices on these two products

I hear the gecko is very good at taking up space at the back of drawers

kolm wrote:I hear the gecko is very good at taking up space at the back of drawers

and that u have to really seriously watch ur angels

Gabriel especially......

It's those fallen angels you need to be really careful around. They like to lead you into temptation.

Locations, phone numbers???

Now what does the last three posts have to do with this topic?

If I was you I'd forget aboout both the gimmicks and learn some solid methods and techniques. Get a good book or two.

twistedjester wrote:Now what does the last three posts have to do with this topic?

They are what we here in the UK call "jokes'. It is the subtle difference between angle and angel.

HTH

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Do you have a purpose for it in mind ? As has been pointed out, many bought these, or variations of, and ended up not really using them. Theyre more of a novelty than anything else. Dont get me wrong, they can be put to good use, but usually there are better and more convenient ways to accomplish the same thing, convenience being the important word here. If its for vanishing/switching Id recommend looking at the toppit instead. Combining a toppit (there are a couple of different designs) with some sleight of hand can produce exellent results.

jim

I prefer the Geko over the Dragon, The bang is kind of lame. As to the dragon its more of a Geko combined with a Bat, by the looks of it, I could be wrong. My only concern with the Dragon in watching the videos is if the items are going where I think they are there is a huge margin of issues if someting does not go correctly, wonder how many takes to vanish the larger items.

as to the Geko there is only 1 real angle to worry about and if you know hot to use it well you can vanish things up to 4-5lbs. As well not sure if the dragon will alot you to recover the item too, the geko you can fairly easy retrieve the item depending on setup.

anyone have a dragon care to comment I would like to here more on it.

Yes I would love to hear from someone who owns one, and on another note I email a store called madhatter magic who carries them asking about it and the owner said that it is similar to the gecko except it has a bang device attached. Basically, its a fancy pull. About video I read a post from the creater of the dragon saying he has never owned a gecko or used one so he can't say if they are similar and someone else said that the dragon is smaller than the gecko and with the gecko u can't spread ur fingure apart befor you do the vanish but with the dragon your able to keep ur fingure apart.
Im courise what is The Bat? I heard it The Ravens cousin but what all can u do with The Bat and how good of a gimmick is it

Opps I meant raven, bat is simular infact I think they are the same.

As to the geko you are right with the fingers I didnt look close enough to the video I will have to see how he has his fingers. It could be the same setup as the raven using fishing line and the finger nail. If anyone has a dragon I would really like feed back. They do the same thats for sure but looking at the angles in teh video I would say the items go diffrent places.

jim ferguson wrote:Do you have a purpose for it in mind ? As has been pointed out, many bought these, or variations of, and ended up not really using them. Theyre more of a novelty than anything else. Dont get me wrong, they can be put to good use, but usually there are better and more convenient ways to accomplish the same thing, convenience being the important word here. If its for vanishing/switching Id recommend looking at the toppit instead. Combining a toppit (there are a couple of different designs) with some sleight of hand can produce exellent results.

jim

I've been looking for a topit for a while, but the only ones that don't need a jacket/coat are about £50!

spooneythegoon wrote:

jim ferguson wrote:Do you have a purpose for it in mind ? As has been pointed out, many bought these, or variations of, and ended up not really using them. Theyre more of a novelty than anything else. Dont get me wrong, they can be put to good use, but usually there are better and more convenient ways to accomplish the same thing, convenience being the important word here. If its for vanishing/switching Id recommend looking at the toppit instead. Combining a toppit (there are a couple of different designs) with some sleight of hand can produce exellent results.

jim

I've been looking for a topit for a while, but the only ones that don't need a jacket/coat are about £50!

I prefer the 20th century version which I can move from one suit to another. Or you could just make your own with some cloth... if you want a portable one you can also use a coat hanger or stiff wire andhave to attached to a belt so the opening is always there ends up more like a side bag but still good for tossing.