Misdirection Techniques

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Postby Mandrake » Apr 17th, '11, 21:33



It's a great feeling when you pull that sort of thing off right under their collective noses!

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Postby I.D » Apr 18th, '11, 16:26

i havent read any of the replies but i like bold moves so I would put the card into my pocket in full view (palmed and obviously out of view)

Just have a spare card in the pocked beforehand and show them their selected card coming out of the pocket

Then 'show them how you did it' and personally I would actually show them me palming the card and putting it in the pocket.

While the hand is in the pocket, switch the cards and bring out the non-selcted card for a repeat.

this time do an 'invisible palm' or do whichever vanish you like (of the non-selected card) and let them remove the selected card from your pocket without you going near it.

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Postby TStone » Apr 18th, '11, 22:54

I.D wrote:i havent read any of the replies but i like bold moves so I would put the card into my pocket in full view (palmed and obviously out of view)

Just have a spare card in the pocked beforehand and show them their selected card coming out of the pocket

Then 'show them how you did it' and personally I would actually show them me palming the card and putting it in the pocket.

While the hand is in the pocket, switch the cards and bring out the non-selcted card for a repeat.

this time do an 'invisible palm' or do whichever vanish you like (of the non-selected card) and let them remove the selected card from your pocket without you going near it.

No need for misdirection and a powerful ending.


That's not your technique! Bad form to pretend that it is!

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Postby jim ferguson » Apr 18th, '11, 23:44

TStone wrote:That's not your technique! Bad form to pretend that it is!
    Perhaps he came up with it independantly ? But yes, its in print. I think this is a Paul Harris idea but could be wrong.
I.D, when you say you would actually show them you palming the card and putting it in the pocket, surely you dont mean literaly (with the proper technique) ?
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Postby TStone » Apr 19th, '11, 00:40

jim ferguson wrote:Perhaps he came up with it independantly ?

That still doesn't make it his.
I think this is a Paul Harris idea but could be wrong.

Yes, you are wrong.

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Postby jim ferguson » Apr 19th, '11, 00:50

TStone wrote:
jim ferguson wrote:Perhaps he came up with it independantly ?

That still doesn't make it his.
    Thats not what Im saying. What I mean is he may have thought of the idea himself, not realising that it was already in print.
I said I may have been wrong about the creator so thanks for pointing that out. A mention of who did create it would have been nice though, rather than just ''Yes, you are wrong''. :roll:
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Postby SamGurney » Apr 19th, '11, 03:03

TStone wrote:
jim ferguson wrote:Perhaps he came up with it independantly ?

That still doesn't make it his.
I think this is a Paul Harris idea but could be wrong.

Yes, you are wrong.

Oh dear. It is the sign of a quality idea that a few people arrive at it independently. Perhaps you would be happier if this person had been unimaginative and not had the idea, and instead wasted all their time dulling their mental faculties by reading? :roll:
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Postby kalen7791 » Apr 19th, '11, 03:17

Nor did he claim it was his routine he only stated how he would perform it. Why the hostility? And if Jim is wrong then why not just tell him who's idea it is and not just jump on him!!

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Postby Beardy » Apr 19th, '11, 03:17

Actually, I think you'll find that that johnathan green first came up with that move in 1768 with bartholomew cards. He called it the 'palm-unpalm popover second show reveal'. He then published it in a book called 'initial creations' that was then lost in the mysterious burnt fire of the 1800s.

Then he saw other people performing his move and got all on his high horse about it all because every single person who ever used this move didn't know the exact source, like everybody knows the inventor of the classic palm and the dl.

Everybody did get a bit confused however, as to why he was making such a big deal over what is, in essence, a bloody card sleight :/

And are you really getting so pickity about an in-the-pocket card switch?

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Postby kalen7791 » Apr 19th, '11, 03:21

:D Thank you Beardy!!

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Postby Agent488 » Apr 19th, '11, 10:27

I.D wrote:i havent read any of the replies but i like bold moves so I would put the card into my pocket in full view (palmed and obviously out of view)

Just have a spare card in the pocked beforehand and show them their selected card coming out of the pocket

Then 'show them how you did it' and personally I would actually show them me palming the card and putting it in the pocket.

While the hand is in the pocket, switch the cards and bring out the non-selcted card for a repeat.

this time do an 'invisible palm' or do whichever vanish you like (of the non-selected card) and let them remove the selected card from your pocket without you going near it.

No need for misdirection and a powerful ending.


That's exactly Francis Carlyle's The Homing Card in Stars of Magic.

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