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hay guys

Well...iv been working on my take on the cups for a little while now, its a standard Dai Vernon-ese routine
With a couple of extra bits of bussiness, ending with the 3 ball/fruit finish NOW

I have to basic ideas (1) cut open one of the fruitss and produce the pre-vanished note of partisipant (I no not original but still)

Or (2) I have the drawstring bag (of which noramally carrys the cups) which has already been in play during the last phase to vanish the 3 balls and is held by spec. Inside now appears a trainer (mine) and inside that a rubber chickien (both a link back to a gag mentioned earlyer in routine)
sorry if this makes little or no sence but it seems to wok at least in my head

Now my probleam is this: which ending? Are the endings just over kill? Could I use both? Could I combine them- chicken outta shoe chicken lays fruit inside fruit is note! OR produce 3 loads then shoe, the addional chicks under cups?

Can some body help me? Lol

I don't understand your second idea, but I don't think the first would work. The problem with something like the bill is that it's a completely illogical twist. It has nothing to do with the cups and balls and may come off as an anticlimax since it takes away some of the impact of producing impossibly large loads.

AFTER you do the cups and balls and have the produced fruits, you can move on to the different effect of the bill-in-fruit, using the fruit as a segue to the bill.

Under no circumstances should you dress in training shoes to perform a magic show. You could face magic prosecution under the magic law.

I beleive some shops sell miniature rubber chickens or similar. You could load them? Or do a double final load and do both oerhaps?

well I was wondering about the wearing trainers as I normally wouldn't with a barge pole

And the anti-climaticness that I thinks my main consern

Thank guys

Any other ideas for a kicker after the 3 loads? Only problem I don't own a bag! So melon perhaps outta the question, or then again is it? Where could I a jumbo load from? I thought about the rabbit out hat bag load. But then my table don't have a cloth cos that was my original idea to combine cups and rabbit out hat lol


Any ideas guys?

probably not you but when I was using three cups, only one now thanxs to paul"the man" daniels, I would end with budas and then get them to pick a cup and do the slot machine pour of chinese coins from that cup.
then that would lead me to some coin routines, budas of course atract money.

sometimes i would preceed the cup routine with either a scotch signed coin or ring vanish from box they hold onto and have the final load buda be holding the signed coin / ring but then I like my tricks to flow tougetther that way.

Why do you need another kicker after the final loads ? The final loads ARE the kicker.
There seems to be a trend over the last few years for this sort of thing, kickers I mean, sometimes theres even a kicker to the kicker ! More often than not it confuses the effect.

Look at all the great Cups and Balls performances - the ending is simply the final loads. A logical kicker of sorts would be a fourth ball, as used by many of the greats. If you are wanting to incorporate a rubber chicken to tie in with a previous gag then why not use a mini one in the manner of a fourth ball ? The three final loads could be produced and placed on top of the cups in the standard manner, then as a final kicker the centre cup is lifted to show the chicken.

Jumbo loads (that dont actually fit the cups) have never really interested me

jim

being a Canadian living in the USA, wearing trainers, especially with a bargle pole is very intriguing. Of course I have no idea what on earth we are talking about.

Whatever you do to make the trick YOU, is what I suggest?

To many people do it like somebody else, and it can be a bit boring?

I once used a final load of live crabs, just to make things interesting.

Feel free to use that if you like, but I won't tell you how not to get pinched in the process.