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So it seems that Haven holiday parks are trying something new to get butts in seats this year.

Magic Exposed.

Magic Show -

In this fun interactive show we will try to uncover some of the myths and mysteries behind magic. It's a Magic show for all the family run by the FunStars!

Appearing throughout the season.

I am hoping it's just a pseudo expose and instead what they get is a wonderful show full of real magic without anything being spoiled, otherwise I can imagine not many magicians wanting to work there anymore for fear of their audiences being nothing but a cynical bunch.

Perhaps we should organise a show where we expose the hidden secets of the Holiday Village Industry...

I think its a good thing. What better way to get kids into magic?

kolm wrote:I think its a good thing. What better way to get kids into magic?

i dont think exposing magic is a good way to get kids into it.

I gather its along the lines of secrets of magic, wherethe audiences have to guess the method, and they are then shown the truth....

who is supplying the magic to Haven?

daleshrimpton wrote:who is supplying the magic to Haven?

I thought you knew every thing?

I am with Kolm. Without exposure our art dies.

I just hope it shows magic in a good light, rather than making a mockery of the art. Thats the important thing really, as almost everyone will forget the secrets withing a few months.

There is exposure and there is exposure. There is a word of difference between gratuitious exposure just for the sake of it and exposure in a book, say of the kind that Tony has written.

People have to buy Tony's book and presumably they have some interest in the subject otherwise they would not be going to the trouble of taking it off the bookshelf, lining up at the checkout and finally paying money out for it.

When secrets are just thrust out like confetti and anyone can find out how tricks are done for free, whether they are interested in magic or not, I think we have to draw the line.

I am all for secrets being given away in a book or even sold in a magic shop (although I do cringe when I see kids purchasing advanced tricks out of their range of experience). People do have to learn magic somewhere. But they are interested learners. Just giving secrets away to all and sundry for the sake of it isn't the same thing.

TonyB wrote:I am with Kolm. Without exposure our art dies.

really?

so you think having magicians stand on a stage and say watch this, now this is how I did it is what makes magic continue?

LOL!

Agent488 wrote:

TonyB wrote:I am with Kolm. Without exposure our art dies.

really?

so you think having magicians stand on a stage and say watch this, now this is how I did it is what makes magic continue?

LOL!

How did you first learn magic? From exposure of one form or another, as when you learnt your first trick you would have been a layman.

I learned my first tricks from books but I was INTERESTED in the books. It took a bit of effort to get them out of the library. If someone exposes a trick on the stage he is not exposing it to seriously INTERESTED people. who want to learn magic. That is the difference. It is the "all and sundry" approach I object to rather than the selective approach.

A good trick is like a precious diamond and you should protect that diamond. And the way you protect it is to keep the secret. It is the very first thing a magician learns.

An exposed trick is like a burst balloon. There is nothing left.

To my certain knowledge exposure stretches back 1800 years. Perhaps more. Yes, Agent488, I am saying exposure is a good thing.

mark lewis wrote:I learned my first tricks from books but I was INTERESTED in the books. It took a bit of effort to get them out of the library. If someone exposes a trick on the stage he is not exposing it to seriously INTERESTED people. who want to learn magic. That is the difference. It is the "all and sundry" approach I object to rather than the selective approach.

A good trick is like a precious diamond and you should protect that diamond. And the way you protect it is to keep the secret. It is the very first thing a magician learns.

An exposed trick is like a burst balloon. There is nothing left.

If they arent interested in magic, then they will soon forget the secrets normally, as people tend to dissmiss the secrets as stupid and not how real magicians do it

spooneythegoon wrote:

Agent488 wrote:

TonyB wrote:I am with Kolm. Without exposure our art dies.

really?

so you think having magicians stand on a stage and say watch this, now this is how I did it is what makes magic continue?

LOL!

How did you first learn magic? From exposure of one form or another, as when you learnt your first trick you would have been a layman.

i was taught by my grandfather. Who bought me Royal Road.

if you think that is the same as the masked magician, there is nothing left to say on the matter. arguing semantics is REALLY dull!

have fun and enjoy the sunshine!