Separating Reds and Blacks

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Postby kartoffelngeist » Jun 19th, '11, 09:14



I've done OOTW before by separating the cards face up (to show how easy it is when we can see the cards) then giving them plenty of shuffles and cuts (thoroughly of course......), getting the spec to give them an overhand shuffle and then away we go!

It'll depend on the context, but works well sometimes...

(EDIT: oops, ended up replying to a dead thread...forgot I'd searched for something... :oops: )

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Postby hds02115 » Jul 3rd, '11, 19:00

I'm not sure if it's already been mentioned, I had a quick browse over some of the other posts, but there are five pages worth of them, so forgive me and ignore this if it has already been mentioned.

I don't think out of this world is an opener either, but have you considered doing it after a suit production effect? I have an effect where I seperate all the suits from a shuffled pack. That leaves me in a great posission where you have the deck going black suit red suit black suit red suit, so if you half it, you have two identical piles. You could then even get a spectator riffle them together which seems very fair, but what they've actually done is put the deck into half black and half red for you.

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Postby Duplicity » Jul 3rd, '11, 19:04

hds02115 wrote: but have you considered doing it after a suit production effect? I have an effect where I seperate all the suits from a shuffled pack. That leaves me in a great posission where you have the deck going black suit red suit black suit red suit, so if you half it, you have two identical piles. You could then even get a spectator riffle them together which seems very fair, but what they've actually done is put the deck into half black and half red for you.


This makes me sad. For me, OOTW is one of the most powerful card-mentalism pieces, so I personally would find it awful to use it with something like a suit production. Each to their own I know. And you are assuming that the person riffling would do it perfectly, aren't you?

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Postby hds02115 » Jul 3rd, '11, 19:15

Duplicity wrote:This makes me sad. For me, OOTW is one of the most powerful card-mentalism pieces, so I personally would find it awful to use it with something like a suit production. Each to their own I know. And you are assuming that the person riffling would do it perfectly, aren't you?


Well, I didn't say I went from one to the other, you assumed that, and as for it being a mental effect, it can be, it's down to how you present it, not all effects are fixed in their genre. I don't think it would best follow a suit production well either as it happens, I was just explaining away, a way you could fit an out of this world effect into the middle of a run of card effects. As for what you said about it would need a person with a good riffle to pull it off for you, that's not totally true, it helps, and if it wasn't the best, it's not totally ruined. Also, if you wanted to play it safe, you could always just half the deck the same, then spin each half so they're a little bit of a stacked mess, and have the spectator push the two piles together, it works just as well. In the style Lennart Green is seen doing a fair bit.

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Postby Duplicity » Jul 3rd, '11, 21:40

Good. Lord. Almighty.

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