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I was in my car looking through my glove box and found one of my maps.It reminded me of one of Derren's effects he did on some afternoon talk show.I thought it was a very clean and nice mental effect.

It's made me wonder has much work been done on effects with maps?I searched google and haven't found anything.If not I think I'm going to devise my own.I think having a map out would be great for presentations.

I've come across a Torn and Restored map but I'm looking more along the lines of a mental effect.My own idea would be to have a map with coordinates and force a certain coordinate on a grid.I was thinking using business cards as a force but I'd rather try keep cards out of it to eliminate 'possiblilty of trickery' as they say.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I could see this playing big from the presentation alone!

It was on Richard and Judy. I have seen it done in other ways with pendulums or muscle reading as an alternative. The grid reference/co-ordinates option would be the easiest, but method may be a bit obvious to specs depending on your force. As an alternative you could get them to pick a location and write it on a billet before revealing in whatever way you see fit.

http://youtu.be/A1Xop411uKE

Alex Marsh performed a mental map effect at the last Tabula Mentis, using coordinates of an A to Z Guide of London to divine boroughs and street names, selected by spectators. Not sure if this effect has been published yet.

Madelon Hoedt wrote:Alex Marsh performed a mental map effect at the last Tabula Mentis, using coordinates of an A to Z Guide of London to divine boroughs and street names, selected by spectators. Not sure if this effect has been published yet.

I was just about to say that myself. It was rather good.

@Madelon Hoedt:

Did the effect go down well?Did he use a force of coordinate?

@Jobasha: I can see what you mean that the forcing of coordinates could possibly be obvious but maybe we're not looking at this from a laymans perspective.Maybe if the force is not a long and drawn out complicated procedure it won't look contrived and will hardly seem part of the trick.If you can take less than 30 seconds to force your coordinates in a casual manner with nothing too 'propy',it'll hardly seem part of the trick as long as the rest of the presentation is the magician concentrating and focusing on the map.I think presentation could prevail over method in this instance.

Oh and I don't want to seem like I'm fishing for methods at all here.I think my last post maybe came across a bit like that.Also I don't want to reveal anything too much myself so I'll try be careful in what way I'm putting this across

Was it John Archer's Streets?

Check out Mind Fluff by Rebecca Harris, it contains a routine called A-Z Memorised. In the Review thread, at http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/sutra395671. ... ht=#395671, Dirty Davey said:

A memory routine using two A-Zs. The spectator chooses any location from the book's index and the performer is able to recall it's page number and grid reference from memory. Next a landmark on one of the maps is chosen with the performer recalling it's grid reference. Lastly to finish, a map is chosen from the book and the performer is able to draw the chosen map from memory. This has got to be one of my favouite routines in the book, the methods are very clever indeed but simple of perform.

And he's right!

There is also a map effect mentioned in 13 steps (or it may be Annemann's Practical Mental Magic) which is quite subtle and effective.

Didn't Derren just use muscle reading on that one? It's not an exposure, I hope, as he pretty much indicated that's what he's done. I'm just curious whether muscle reading can be that accurate, since I'm having trouble making it work reliably for me.

Also, the map effect in Corinda is deliciously subtle. There's also a similar effect, more appropriate for close-up, in the Thinking about Japan book that Amira released lately.

Corinda's map effect is indeed "deliciously subtle".

As is the one in Becky's Mind Fluff, which made me laugh out loud at the sheer audacious simplicity of it all.

Stephen Tucker put out an item with a (pirate) treasure map. Spectator chose where the treasure was buried and performer divined the location. I think it was a progressive anagram.

Dave.

www.madetomeasuremagic.co.uk

John Archer's Streets is great. Richard Graham did one with three different A-Z guides...brilliant!

Bob Cassidy's Puzzled uses a map of the US in an intriguing way.

Lots of remote viewing effects with maps, and Annemann has one as well.

Cheers

Dr T

Kenton Knepper's got some nice ideas for maps in (I think) his Mind Reading Lesson 9. There's also an early version of my Where's Wally routine in Mind Reading 10 that could be adapted to use maps.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

I looked up the ones in Practical mental magic and 13 steps but I've found them to be quite unpractical and more stage based.