The best mentalism effect WITHOUT a gimmick.. EVER..?

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Postby magicofthemind » Jul 1st, '11, 10:25



All of the above - plus Contact Mind-Reading and Switchcraft.

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Postby Beardy » Jul 1st, '11, 11:08

Klangster1971 wrote:
Barefoot Boy wrote:In impromptu situations I KILL with the Centre Tear!


I'm still conflicted about the Centre Tear - It just seems too obvious. Why would you get somebody to write something down only to then tear it up? I can see the justification in getting someone to write something down "so you don't change your mind or forget it" but then I have never seen the justification in tearing it up.

I'd love to hear some ideas on it because I fear I'm missing a huge swathe of opportunites by not using the technique (although the Stealth Assassin Wallet is on me at all times, which provides a suitable alternative!)


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I do it with two or more people. They write it down to show everybody else 'so I don't hear them whispering' which is also a good guise of getting them to write it clearly

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Postby themagicwand » Jul 1st, '11, 11:50

Beardy wrote:e people. They write it down to show everybody else 'so I don't hear them whispering' which is also a good guise of getting them to write it clearly

Brilliant thinking Chris! That would also justify the tearing up - "So I can't sneakily peak at what you've written down!"

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Postby Ted » Jul 1st, '11, 11:57

Klangster1971 wrote:
Barefoot Boy wrote:In impromptu situations I KILL with the Centre Tear!


I'm still conflicted about the Centre Tear - It just seems too obvious.


It's really not obvious. I clearly remember the very first time I tried it out for real. I didn't even bother burying it in a clever presentation. Just had someone think of a word, ripped up the paper and revealed it. As bare as you like. They were totally stunned.

That said, I do use it in combination with other techniques now. But I thought that little anecdote might help with the conflict :)

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Postby Beardy » Jul 1st, '11, 12:07

themagicwand wrote:
Beardy wrote:e people. They write it down to show everybody else 'so I don't hear them whispering' which is also a good guise of getting them to write it clearly

Brilliant thinking Chris! That would also justify the tearing up - "So I can't sneakily peak at what you've written down!"


Indeed:

"Now everybody knows we don't need this any more".

I generally dispose of the ripped bits into an empty corona bottle for example (if in a pub setting) so they cant get at the ripped bits. It seems to make sense as you then aren't making a mess.

Works every time, no worries.

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Postby Duplicity » Jul 1st, '11, 13:06

I'm an acidus man, myself. CMR, pendulums and readings too.

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Postby Robbie » Jul 1st, '11, 13:11

themagicwand wrote:Master cold reading and you don't need owt else.

I misread that as "master mind reading and you don't need owt else". Well, duh.

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Postby grant_m23 » Jul 1st, '11, 13:40

For completely gimmick/prop less work - I really enjoy "Propless TARP" and "Summing Up" by Marc Paul

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Postby TheMentalist » Jul 1st, '11, 18:29

Effects that are close to or are genuine are great, I love hypnosis or suggestion based routines.
also Patrick Redfords' Prevaricator comes to mind of the top of my head

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Postby TheStoner » Jul 1st, '11, 20:26

Palm readings, hypnosis and metal bending

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Postby Justin Saul » Jul 1st, '11, 23:25

It has got to be Equivoque/Magicians choice for me. It always goes down well.

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Postby ColinR » Jul 2nd, '11, 08:31

Relish wrote:What about Sensory Perception? I still haven't had the courage to perform that yet but I've heard it kills.


Does anyone still perform Sensory Perception? Surely the film list must need revising as some aspects of the films such as Harry Potter will be more familiar to people now. Hopefully those with this will understand what I mean.

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Postby Robbie » Jul 3rd, '11, 13:16

Magick wrote:It has got to be Equivoque/Magicians choice for me. It always goes down well.

I love Docc Hilford's "streamlined" equivoque technique. It can be done anywhere, any time, with whatever comes to hand, and it works equally well as a straight prediction of the future, a sort of mind/personality reading, or an application of subliminal influence -- however you want to handle it.

Hilford says he likes to ask the spectator to select and gather up the objects himself, anything from 5 or 6 to maybe 20 or so items, and lay them out. This provides an extra flourish: "you chose the things yourself, they're not my things, you arranged them yourself, I never even touched them". It also gives him time to write the prediction while the spectator is still fetching items, which can become a memory of the prediction being written even before the stuff was selected.

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Postby Klangster1971 » Jul 4th, '11, 08:35

Robbie wrote:
Magick wrote:It has got to be Equivoque/Magicians choice for me. It always goes down well.

I love Docc Hilford's "streamlined" equivoque technique. It can be done anywhere, any time, with whatever comes to hand, and it works equally well as a straight prediction of the future, a sort of mind/personality reading, or an application of subliminal influence -- however you want to handle it.

Hilford says he likes to ask the spectator to select and gather up the objects himself, anything from 5 or 6 to maybe 20 or so items, and lay them out. This provides an extra flourish: "you chose the things yourself, they're not my things, you arranged them yourself, I never even touched them". It also gives him time to write the prediction while the spectator is still fetching items, which can become a memory of the prediction being written even before the stuff was selected.


Oooh yes - E'Voque.... That's a brilliant weapon to have on you for impromptu occasions!

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Postby JakeThePerformer » Jul 4th, '11, 20:21

themagicwand wrote:
Stephen Ward wrote:
Palm reading!

He really can read minds!!! But cold reading in general actually. Hugely under-used by both magicians and mentalists. Master cold reading and you don't need owt else. Honest. It is mentalism in its purest form - just ask Corinda.


Why/how would a magician use cold reading?

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