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Afternoon all,

I'm looking for a cold read youtube clip. Found some fun ones, but does anyone know of any good clips where a card is forced and theres some strong patter of the mentalism read...im looking to imporove my routine.

Thanks in advance,
Alex

What?

Apologies - that wasnt very clear.

I'd like to perform what would seem to laymen a cold read i.e. force a card, build patter and read their mind and the selected card given the way their eyes move. I've a strong routine but the patter can do with improvements.

Anyone know of performances out there on the www that are good to watch?

cheers

Still not entirely clear. Sorry. When you say a cold-read, do you mean give a reading - as in cartomancy? Or do you mean you want help with the presentation to make it seem as though you are able to divine the card they chose by their eye movements?

ah! The latter!

Hoping to see a few of the presentations out there. Here is the patter and technique I use with a force;

CARD READ

There’s been rivalry for hundreds of years between con artists and sleight of hand gamblers and magicians. They each have a go at each other all the time claiming that their methods are more impressive and they can cheat better.

So I’ve studying this technique called cold reading which is a series of techniques used by con artists to determine details about another person in order to convince them that the reader knows much more about a subject than they actually do.

Without prior knowledge of a person, a practiced cold reader can still quickly obtain a great deal of information about the subject by analyzing the person's body language, age, clothing or fashion, hairstyle, gender, sexual orientation, religion, race or ethnicity, level of education, manner of speech, place of origin, etc.

Cold readers commonly employ high probability guesses about the subject, quickly picking up on signals from their subjects as to whether their guesses are in the right direction or not, and then emphasizing and reinforcing any chance connections the subjects acknowledge while quickly moving on from missed guesses.

Think of the number of your card…are you thinking of it? *spec nods* Ah! So I know its not a picture card. Stay with the poker face, don’t give too much away now.

Hold specs hand - If its black the right gets heavier, its red the left gets heavier

Pulse read – numbers 2-10. Say stop in your mind.
Place two cards in specs and. Magicians force the correct card.

“So that’s the con artistry out of the way – let me show you some magic” Take their card and burn it in an ash tray and use the ash to make the card appear on your arm.

Sorry to sound brutal, but aren't you a decade too late? This is psuedo-Derren-lite, and just comes across as a big mess. If you're a magician, just take pride in being a magician. I don't see how saying what you are in the example you give does you any favours. It sounds like you're trying to be kinda well-meaning, but to be straight with you - it comes across as a little ego driven.

Hot reading - feeding back information to someone that they have told you (or you have overheard them say by some means or other).

Cold reading - two camps, some define it as where someone reads a person with absolutely no information about them, using a system/oracle to do so. Others use the term to mean using stock lines and phrases a la barnum and forer.

I would want to clear up what you said into something more entertaining, rather than (to some people) vaguely insulting. People who give readings aren't all scum afterall. Just like not all therapists sh*g their clients.

So, you could talk about scam artists use certain techniques to convince people to believe that they are the owner of buildings for example, a famous ruse was the selling of london bridge and the eifeel tower (you can google those and read all the times they have been 'sold').

You have learnt some of these techniques to help you convince people that the choices they make seem very fair, when really you are cheating them in ways that they are not aware of.

There, its still Derrenish, still a little bit pointless (in my opinion only), but now less all over the place. I know this'll come across as a bit snotty/snobby/bullish - but i'd rather give you an honest opinion, rather than just a nod and a well done.

ultimatecreate wrote:ah! The latter!

Hoping to see a few of the presentations out there. Here is the patter and technique I use with a force;

CARD READ

There’s been rivalry for hundreds of years between con artists and sleight of hand gamblers and magicians. They each have a go at each other all the time claiming that their methods are more impressive and they can cheat better.

So I’ve studying this technique called cold reading which is a series of techniques used by con artists to determine details about another person in order to convince them that the reader knows much more about a subject than they actually do.

Without prior knowledge of a person, a practiced cold reader can still quickly obtain a great deal of information about the subject by analyzing the person's body language, age, clothing or fashion, hairstyle, gender, sexual orientation, religion, race or ethnicity, level of education, manner of speech, place of origin, etc.

Cold readers commonly employ high probability guesses about the subject, quickly picking up on signals from their subjects as to whether their guesses are in the right direction or not, and then emphasizing and reinforcing any chance connections the subjects acknowledge while quickly moving on from missed guesses.

Think of the number of your card…are you thinking of it? *spec nods* Ah! So I know its not a picture card. Stay with the poker face, don’t give too much away now.

Hold specs hand - If its black the right gets heavier, its red the left gets heavier

Pulse read – numbers 2-10. Say stop in your mind.
Place two cards in specs and. Magicians force the correct card.

“So that’s the con artistry out of the way – let me show you some magic” Take their card and burn it in an ash tray and use the ash to make the card appear on your arm.

Where exactly does the cold reading come in here - apart from mentioning it as a form of con artistry? Clearly cold reading is something that you know little about, so why not just stick to the magic? If you want to use cold reading in your close-up repertoire in a positive & life-affirming way I would humbly point you towards a very cheap PDF called Hypno-Mental Self-Working Card Tricks. You can find it by clicking the big box in my sig.

Cold reading should be an upbeat, positive experience for the spectator. The moment you start branding it as con-artistry you reduce it all to the lowest common denominator. “So that’s the con artistry out of the way – let me show you some magic” Cold reading can (and should) bring more magic into the spectator's life than any amount of ash on your arm.