I need help with the card flick (I cant do it very well)

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I need help with the card flick (I cant do it very well)

Postby megashark » Aug 3rd, '11, 21:01



As you all know the card flick is where you flick the top card out of the deck and then catch it, the magician then goes, "this is your card" i need help on how to hold, move and flick the card off, any help is appreciated, thanks.

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Re: I need help with the card flick (I cant do it very well)

Postby C.L.Ward » Aug 3rd, '11, 21:14

megashark wrote:As you all know the card flick is where you flick the top card out of the deck and then catch it, the magician then goes, "this is your card" i need help on how to hold, move and flick the card off, any help is appreciated, thanks.


iif you're struggling with the move you might want to look at the positioning of the deck when you execute the flick...... i first learnt this from an instant download by oz pearlman called "the long distance spinner" yonks ago.... and the technique he showed for holding the cards simply didnt work for me

may i ask what piece of material you are learning from??

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Re: I need help with the card flick (I cant do it very well)

Postby megashark » Aug 3rd, '11, 22:21

C.L.Ward wrote:
megashark wrote:As you all know the card flick is where you flick the top card out of the deck and then catch it, the magician then goes, "this is your card" i need help on how to hold, move and flick the card off, any help is appreciated, thanks.


iif you're struggling with the move you might want to look at the positioning of the deck when you execute the flick...... i first learnt this from an instant download by oz pearlman called "the long distance spinner" yonks ago.... and the technique he showed for holding the cards simply didnt work for me

may i ask what piece of material you are learning from??

My Dads friend who is in the magic circle, he does it when performing any "is this your card trick" the way he shows me how though is too complicated.

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Postby Arkesus » Aug 4th, '11, 01:44

Do you mind that I postulate that any good magic that you are likely to want to learn, is going to be "too complicated" for your standards.
I highly doubt that your dad's friend has decided that in learning that particular move, he would deliberately use only the most complex version and that there would be far easier ways to accomplish it that he simply ignored.
Magic takes time and effort, if you want to be able to do these things, you are going to have to put the time and effort into working them over and over and over again. There is not going to be any sleight that you are going to be shown once, and you will be instantly able to do it well. It could take months, often years to master these things.

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Re: I need help with the card flick (I cant do it very well)

Postby C.L.Ward » Aug 4th, '11, 01:50

megashark wrote:My Dads friend who is in the magic circle, he does it when performing any "is this your card trick" the way he shows me how though is too complicated.


then surely he can show you different variations on the effect??

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Re: I need help with the card flick (I cant do it very well)

Postby megashark » Aug 4th, '11, 13:33

C.L.Ward wrote:
megashark wrote:My Dads friend who is in the magic circle, he does it when performing any "is this your card trick" the way he shows me how though is too complicated.


then surely he can show you different variations on the effect??

possibly...

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Postby phillipnorthfield » Aug 4th, '11, 14:07

I have my own easy peasy method, that gives you a lot more control, I'd explain but it wouldn't make sense in written form.

.... Probably shouldn't have said anything then... :oops:

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Postby megashark » Aug 4th, '11, 15:03

phillipnorthfield wrote:I have my own easy peasy method, that gives you a lot more control, I'd explain but it wouldn't make sense in written form.

.... Probably shouldn't have said anything then... :oops:

do you have like a video of your method? if not, please try and write it, i'll try to make sense of it.

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Postby phillipnorthfield » Aug 4th, '11, 15:48

I'll try and write it up as best I can.

(I use my right hand, because I do all card sleights in reverse, so bear that in mind with this description :P )

Hold- the deck in mechanics grip.

Push over the top edge of the top card, so that it pivots in the corner, by the large base of your thumb.

Clip the card between this part of your thumb and place your middle fingertip on the middle of the top edge. (Your little and 4th finger will be underneath the card.

Pushing down with your middle finger causes the card to bow, upwards, and with a flick of your wrist, you can cause the card to pivot of the base of your thumb. Takes a little bit of practice, but you get a lot more control than a standard hot shot cut.

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Postby TheStoner » Aug 4th, '11, 16:20

He could mean the Greg Wilson style move where the card flies out of the deck, goes in a boomerang-style arc and ends up back in your hand. Super-cool. Can't remember which DVD it's on - "Card Stunts" maybe?

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Postby jim ferguson » Aug 4th, '11, 16:23

I use a method thats usually used for cutting to the aces. Im not sure of the name of the move but a tabled deck is held side-ways and in the action of a cut an ace shoots out from the ''centre'' of the deck. Anyway i learned this from John Bannons Impossibilia. I hold the deck from the ends instead of the sides (same technique though) and cause a chosen card to spin into the air and is caught in the other hand, i use it as part of a multiple selection routine. I can flick the card several storeys, though i rarely get the oppertunity.
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    EDIT. I just checked the book, its the Benzais Spin-Out technique i use (with the different grip i mentioned)


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Postby bmat » Aug 4th, '11, 17:21

To the original poster. The problem is you described what the effect looks like. I personally know about four different methods to achieve the effect you are looking for. And I know there are quite a few others. Without knowing exactly what method you are performing then it is really hard to give you any tips. Telling us that it is the move that somebody you know from the magic circle performes it really doesn't tell us much.

Here are some general things you may want to consider.

Unless you are using some sort of gimmick, (not recomended in this effect) then all the methods take practice, worse they all take a little bit of a knack to learn, even when you know the method it still takes time.

In my favourite pop out move you need to develop a few muscle's in your hand that you would not otherwise use so it takes a while to learn.

Everyone's hands are different so for somebody to tell you the exact positioning of the cards is almost impossible.

And last, every method I've seen, I've seen performed which means they are not impossible despite how frustrated you may get during your first week of practice.

In almost every scenario however what usually happens is you spend the first few hours really eager and ready to go and nothing happens. Then your hand gets sore and starts to cramp. Then one day you try the move again and the card seems to move just a little bit on its own volition once it comes off the thumb. Then the blood starts pumping again, you go back to practicing like a mad man. Finally the single card leaves the deck but only about an inch or so. Then one day it jumps from the deck and makes 70 revolutions and lands in the opposite hand. Then it happens again and again. Then you can't figure out why it took so long to learn because it really is freakin' easy!

It is a process.

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