Coinvexed 2.0

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Coinvexed 2.0

Postby MrTetley » Aug 20th, '11, 19:38



Hi there,

This is my first post so please take it easy!! I was just wondering if anyone could help me out with coinvexed 2.0? I have only been able to get a nice "even" bend a couple of times. The other times the coin is bending only on one side. I know this isn't a fault with coinvexed by rather my handling. Reactions have still been good but any tips would be appreciated.

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Postby me_simon » Aug 20th, '11, 20:05

From experience, it depends on the coin. 1p and 5p are easier than 2p and 10p to get the even bend. No doubt size plays a large role and my inability to be strong. But even a 1p bend blows people away.

As a side note, if you ever find yourself in Australia you're in luck. The 5c and 10c Australian coins bend like butter!

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Postby MrTetley » Aug 20th, '11, 21:18

Hi,

Yeah I've noticed the 1p and 5p do bend really nicely. Was thinking of using a 1p/5p routine.

One other thing, does anyone have any 1 coin routines that they find work well? I can PM my email address if anyone wouldn't mind sharing.

Thanks again.

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Postby me_simon » Aug 20th, '11, 22:13

I do mine with 1p and 2p. If using my own coins I joke and say I'm not made of cash.

That way you also get the big and small contrast.

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Postby kolm » Aug 20th, '11, 22:38

To the spec, you've bent a coin. It doesn't really matter if you've bent it symmetrically :)

James Brown does a nice one coin coinvexed routine. I'm working on one, but it's still pretty raw and in the "showing friends" category, but it basically boils down to finding a reason to distract the spec's attention for a second or two while you bend the coin

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Postby MrTetley » Aug 20th, '11, 23:00

Your absolutely right Kolm. I guess it's more for me than the spectator!!
Have you had problems with marks being left on the 10p? I had one person ask about this as the mark was quite visible.

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Postby Mark Waddington » Aug 20th, '11, 23:29

I do coinvexed about 10 times at every gig, and ive never been able to get a perfectly even bend, but it doesnt matter - all that matters to me is that I get the bend in on the off-beat. The spectator doesnt care if its even or not, they are just amazed the coin has bended. Plus I think if the bend was perfect, it would look like you have a special gizmo in your hand, and we don't want the spectator to think that, do we? :)

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Postby MrTetley » Aug 20th, '11, 23:38

Haha! Very true. I'm very new to performing magic and I'm mostly showing friends and family. I find that friends are definatley the hardest people to perform for as they will ask so many questions and try to "work it out". I used coinvexed in a friends house tonight and after he asked me "show me what's in your pockets, you must have pliers!" It was great to show the contents of my pocket, with no pliers in sight!! :-)

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Postby me_simon » Aug 20th, '11, 23:52

Re: the mark left - I get that sometimes too but it fits in with my patter.

The version I do goes like this.

I ask for the Queen on the 1p to be made to look hard - give her a goatie, an earring, long hair etc. and get them to sign the tales side.

The 2p I ask for them to sign the heads side and on the tales, draw themselves as a stick figure, also looking menacing.

Both coins in hand - "Name a coin"

FIGHT - they jerk their hands from side to side "You want to knock your opponent into oblivion!" (I make it sound like the coin's going to disappear.) This goes on for a little bit.

"One last punch - BAM." They stop "Now shake your fists, are there still two coins in there?"

"Yes"

"Oh.. (fake that the effect has failed)... Open your hands and see who fared best?"

"WOAH!!!!"

Result. :D

I found with the coins jumping around in the hands it covers for the mark if anyone questions it. After all "it must have something to do with the warmth of the hands" was once used to explain the bend.

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Postby MrTetley » Aug 21st, '11, 00:00

Simon, I like it! Will definitely be giving that one a go! Thank you. Something I use sometimes is to sign the other side of the coin that they have signed so that "they will remember who performed the magic!"
I then start my signature on the mark and I've found the sharpie covers it completely. I found that the mark is usually only noticed if they do a second more thorough inspection! This way they can inspect away and the mark is covered by my name!!

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Re: Coinvexed 2.0

Postby Flood » Aug 21st, '11, 18:38

If you want a way to eliminate the scratches and dents then PM me.Trust me it has affected the spectators oppinions of the trick more than once leaving them thinking they know how its done.You may not think people think about it because they dont say it to you but they are humans and they are smart enough to know if a piece of metal has been bent with a dent then there was obviously some sort of device hence the pliers thing.Just my oppinion.I have overcome this problem so just drop me a PM

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Re: Coinvexed 2.0

Postby Jean » Aug 21st, '11, 22:04

I've never had anyone mention a dent problem (Not to say it doesn't happen to me, they just don't mention it).
What I think sells this effect, especially if you use one coin, is that with a bit of coaching you can get the participant to feel the coin bending in their hand.

After that pliers wouldn't be considered possible.

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Re: Coinvexed 2.0

Postby Flood » Aug 22nd, '11, 18:35

I did a gig for my cousins Bday and her brother(my cousin) came up to me and told me he knew how I did the routine.

''That trick where you turned the deck into glass was unreal.I know how you did the coin one though''-''How''...He said ''Did you see what was on the coin?''

This is what my cousin came up to me and said.What spectator would come up to you and say that.They would discuss it among their friends.Even if they're not right (which they are) you are giving them an out or a place to go so it settles their mind leaving them thinking they know how.This ruins the magic and potential gigs possibly.

It's just my oppinion but just because a spectator doesnt say anything does not mean they are none the wiser.Very rarely will someone ever say anything to me about how I have achieved an effect and when I do hear something I cringe and then go home and work harder on it making whatever it is I'm doing more bulletproof and deceptive.It's best when a spectator speaks up.Otherwise they are fooling you into thinking they dont know how it is done.The irony of that is mindboggling

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Re: Coinvexed 2.0

Postby MrTetley » Aug 22nd, '11, 19:20

I know what your saying flood. I have had family members mention the marks. However, I have friends who I know would definitely say if they saw a mark but they haven't. So I guess they haven't noticed. I'm gonna try out a few things and practice with it. I think it's a great routine and worth persevering with.

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Re: Coinvexed 2.0

Postby Jean » Aug 23rd, '11, 00:40

Flood wrote:This is what my cousin came up to me and said.What spectator would come up to you and say that.They would discuss it among their friends.Even if they're not right (which they are) you are giving them an out or a place to go so it settles their mind leaving them thinking they know how.This ruins the magic and potential gigs possibly.


I'm sure people who've watched me perform it have discussed how it was done, they just haven't shared it with me so I can't comment on what they came up with. My point is if you have the participant remember the coin bending in their hand it makes any solution impossible to recreate. I don't think it could ruin potential gigs, because spectators will always try to come up with the method for how a trick or effect was done no matter what you do.

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