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In your opinion what is the most difficult card/coin sleight you have (not) mastered?Please don´t say "Clipshift" or Muscle Pass.

I can't speak for coin magic, but for me it's center dealing. It trumps bottom dealing, table faros, riffle stacking and any form of pass in my opinion (After 2 years mine still looks incredibly ugly, hence my plan to buy Steve forte's hands when he leaves this mortal realm )

I find that 'Flippant' move tricky to get consistent.

Why am I not allowed to say Clipshift of Muscle Pass?

I found the Muscle Pass quite easy to learn; the Clipshift I found to be an unnecessary substitute for a pass.

For things to find most difficult look at Lennart Green's stuff; stupidly difficult sleights covered by the appearance of being somewhat medicated. Fantastic stuff IMHO.



OK, honest productive reply:
A DL.
Now, before you jump on shouting "but a DL is easy"; Yes A DL is easy but making it look as similar as a single is not!
Think about it.

There is no point in trying to learn the "difficult" stuf is you can't do the standards competantly.
Unless you love YouTube a bit oto much then go nuts!

koliko987 wrote:In your opinion what is the most difficult card/coin sleight you have (not) mastered?Please don´t say "Clipshift" or Muscle Pass.

Don't think I have enough room to list all of mine.......

Lawrence wrote:Why am I not allowed to say Clipshift of Muscle Pass?

I found the Muscle Pass quite easy to learn; the Clipshift I found to be an unnecessary substitute for a pass.

For things to find most difficult look at Lennart Green's stuff; stupidly difficult sleights covered by the appearance of being somewhat medicated. Fantastic stuff IMHO.



OK, honest productive reply:
A DL.
Now, before you jump on shouting "but a DL is easy"; Yes A DL is easy but making it look as similar as a single is not!
Think about it.

There is no point in trying to learn the "difficult" stuf is you can't do the standards competantly.
Unless you love YouTube a bit oto much then go nuts!

I read on some other forum a similar topic to this and all the people were shouting "Muscle Pass" or "Clipshift".Thats why I asked people not to say that.
Please explain "IMHO".I don´t quite understand it.

I wasn´t posting this topic to find out what is the most difficult move so I could learn it.I was simply curious what people think.
Also,for the record,I have never posted any of my magic on youtube.

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

Reread the bit I said about DLs and absorb it though

I agree with Lawrence. In fact id go so far as to say that many of the common sleights - DL, classic pa*m (coins and cards), colour changes etc - fall into this category. There is a world of difference between being able to do something, and truly mastering it.

jim