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Which would you advise I purchase and learn from first?

Card Revelations (Daryl) - Or - Encyclopedia of Card Sleights (Daryl)

I don’t want the tail wagging the dog if ya get me!

Many Thanks

If you're just starting out then there's not much better place to start than Mark Wilson's Complete Course or if you're only interested in cards, Royal Road to Card Magic.

Lady of Mystery wrote:If you're just starting out then there's not much better place to start than Mark Wilson's Complete Course or if you're only interested in cards, Royal Road to Card Magic.

Funny you should say that.

Daryl 'the man' also recommended that to me

'Jamie,

Reading Erdnase is great, but it's even more important to practice and LEARN by DOING what you've read.

If you enjoy reading about card magic, the Card College series by Roberto Giobbi (volumes 1-5) is EXCELLENT!

If you would prefer ONE BOOK as opposed to a series, The Royal Road to Card Magic by Hugard and Braue is great. After this, you could advance to Expert Card Technique by the same authors. This is how I got started.

A newer single book that is also wonderful is Joshua Jay's Amazing Book of Cards. This was published by Workman Publishing in New York, it comes with a DVD, and it's available from "regular" book stores!

This is MORE than enough to keep you very busy for YEARS! Enjoy the journey...

Cheers!

Daryl'


He also said (regarding Card Revelations - Or - Encyclopedia of Card Sleights)


'Jamie,

No question... The Encyclopedia of Card Sleights! This set will teach you more than what you'll need in a LIFETIME!

Here's the link to help!

http://www.foolerdoolers.com/category.php?cat_id=80

Cheers!

Daryl'


Can't believe he responded, he has even emailed since asking what I have decided to go for and told me to stay in touch.

What a nice guy!

Royal Road also has accompaniment from a DVD set by Paul Wilson (from The Real Hustle TV show). It's very handy to see what is being explained in the book and can make life a lot easier.

Another DVD that someone suggested (but I have never tried) is Xtreme Beginnerz.

Daryl's Encyclopedia of Card Sleights is superb, but perhaps not the best place to start. Through studying it you'll learn lots of sleights, but not much in the way of tricks. I think it's more effective as a reference tool rather than something to work your way through (although that may be obvious as it's entitled 'encyclopedia'). Perhaps start with one of the books like Royal Road to Card Magic, which is very good both to start off with and for more advanced stuff (I think it's probably more advanced than a lot of people give it credit for). Don't get me wrong though, Encyclopedia of Card Sleights is great. And Daryl is in my opinion one of the best card magicians too.

I think Xtreme Beginnerz, though I haven't watched it, is more about flourishes and things rather than tricks? Not sure, but if so, perhaps not the best place to start at. With something that focuses on flourishes and sleights (like Dayl's Encyclopedia and, I think, Xtreme Beginnerz), you'll spend months perfecting sleights and flourishes but if someone asks you to do a trick, you might find yourself struggling to think of one to do.

That's just my opinion. I might also be wrong on the Xtreme Beginnerz point also.

Xtreme beginners covers everything you need to know.

Please read the third post - Royal Road has already been recommended to me by Daryl personally

But the reason I want the Sleight Encyclopedia is because I already know the theory behind / sleights used in a lot of tricks but a lot of the card magic books I have studied don't go into this side of things enough. They will tell you to use your favourite false cut or shuffle, what about the poor amateur that doesn't have a favourite or any at all.

I'm not new to card magic and have a bit of a knack of watching card tricks and working them out without the assistance of a book or tutorial, however I think, I and a lot of card magic lovers would benefit from going back to the basics from time to time and re-learning / mastering some of the more useful sleights/moves.

Xtreme Beginners by De'vo also comes highly recommended and does cover pretty much everything, even if you don't want to get into extreme card manipulation side it does teach generally useful card handlings, shuffles, cuts etc.

The reason I want to master my sleights again is to improve the delivery of my card tricks.

Go with Royal Road and Encyc.

You're clearly very eager to learn the sleights so channel that enthusiasm into study and practice.

I'd learn Royal Road inside and out and pick one sleight at a time from the Ency. to learn as a parallel to the RRTCM, so that you're not lunging back and forth half-practising little bits.

Ste Porterfield wrote:Go with Royal Road and Encyc.

You're clearly very eager to learn the sleights so channel that enthusiasm into study and practice.

I'd learn Royal Road inside and out and pick one sleight at a time from the Ency. to learn as a parallel to the RRTCM, so that you're not lunging back and forth half-practising little bits.

Good thinking Ste

I think I will do exactly that

I think intrigue will get the better of me eventually with regards to the Card Revelations, if I'm gonna learn some of Daryl's tricks, may as well get the tutorials directly from him.

But in the mean time I am going to order Hugard and Braue's Royal Road' and Daryls Encyclopedia's (all 8 of them).

Daryl has emailed me back (which I still can't believe) after a few emails I realised I was actually talking to one of my heroes for the first time so blagged him for his autograph and he's kindly asked me to send him my address - what a legend!

JammyT wrote:Xtreme beginners covers everything you need to know.

Please read the third post - Royal Road has already been recommended to me by Daryl personally

But the reason I want the Sleight Encyclopedia is because I already know the theory behind / sleights used in a lot of tricks but a lot of the card magic books I have studied don't go into this side of things enough. They will tell you to use your favourite false cut or shuffle, what about the poor amateur that doesn't have a favourite or any at all.

I'm not new to card magic and have a bit of a knack of watching card tricks and working them out without the assistance of a book or tutorial, however I think, I and a lot of card magic lovers would benefit from going back to the basics from time to time and re-learning / mastering some of the more useful sleights/moves.

Xtreme Beginners by De'vo also comes highly recommended and does cover pretty much everything, even if you don't want to get into extreme card manipulation side it does teach generally useful card handlings, shuffles, cuts etc.

The reason I want to master my sleights again is to improve the delivery of my card tricks.

So if you already know some of the literature/DVDs covering the material, what exactly are you wanting help with? If you want to practise your sleights, go and practise them. You already know where to learn them.

Was unsure when I initially started the thread.

But since then have received some sound advice.

I guess I was unsure what the difference between the revelations and encyclopedia was.

But Daryl's emails and Ste's advice (to use the encyclopedia as a reference to aid with either Card revelations or Royal Road) makes sense.

I cannot reinforce what Lady of Mystery says about the Mark Wilson book strongly enough. It is a fabulously good value book with very clear instructions and some excellent tricks. I have been performing part time for money for over two years now and I have bought dozens of books, DVDs and one off tricks in that time. I still however trot out stuff from the Wilson book every time I perform. His torn and restored routine is as good as any I have seen and if you can get the special flick right the end is a killer.

The other source for some nice beginner tuition is Oz Pearlmans DVD Born to Perform. It only has a handfull of tricks on it but teaches some basic sleights graphically and clearly. It seems to have gone out of fashion on here a bit over the past couple of years but is still a good buy.

Yep, that's why you'll find the Mark Wilson, Bobo and RRTCM books classed as "The Holy Trinity" round these parts.