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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby Rob » Nov 13th, '11, 01:02



If you have enough spare cash/tv budget backing, you could have one custom-made for you (as it needs to be).

If you don't, you're out of luck, simple as!

(It's a little like me, coming along 20 years back, and asking for the secrets and props to be able to perform Copperfield's Buzzsaw... :wink: )

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby Alec Burns » Nov 13th, '11, 01:47

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby JammyT » Nov 14th, '11, 13:18

DarkBlaine

A word of advice

I haven't been on this particular forum for very long, but long enough to know that the type of questions you are asking are not going to get many helpful responses, folks round here don't give up other people's secrets (quite rightly so) and don't take kindly to people asking, outright for reveals.

I hope you don't think I'm being mean because I would hope that you stick around and really get something out of these forums.

The effect you are referring to is fantastic but probably not the best place to start, as Magic Rob pointed out it is very expensive and it can be dangerous.

I have seen versions of this that are seemingly impromptu (do not need to be done in a specific place) when you apply the science to it I suppose an impromptu version would be possible but very difficult to achieve, but that is beside the point.

Best advice I can give you is forget about your Matrix levitation / muscle suspension for a while and start off with something a little smaller / easier to achieve.

Get yourself a good book, Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic is very highly recommended by a lot of the ams and pro's on this site. Get yourself some cards a couple of shells and a TT is best advice I can give you (and don't waste all your money on expensive gimmicks).

The members on this forum appreciate people that have taken the time to learn and practice before offering support, if you are struggling with a particular sleight / move then the guys in here are usually more than happy to point you in the right direction but revealing secrets is not done here.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby Lenoir » Nov 14th, '11, 14:20

PM Beardy. Get your checkbook out and maybe he'll cough up his version.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby BigShot » Nov 14th, '11, 15:20

Just for the record, Dynamo's "Matrix" illusions is not new and is not "Dynamo's" either.
There's a human statue I've seen doing that (and doing a better, more convincing job of it too, I might add) for a fair while now and if I had to guess, I think that's where Bradford's golden boy probably got the idea from.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby JammyT » Nov 14th, '11, 15:23

I think a 'coin unique' is a way better place to start

I can not really advise on where to buy a decent one in UK currency as any I have bought have been rubbish.
Others may be able to advise on a good commercial coin producer (I think Tango are ok?)

I am in touch with Jamie Schoolcraft at the moment,an American gaff maker, very expensive, I repeat very expensive, but you will not find better quality gaffs.
He is looking into the possibility of making some very high quality UK gaffes but to be honest that is just me showing off and wouldn't be a recommendable investment to (anyone with any sanity) a beginner.

If the Dynamo trick is what you want to achieve I'd go for a £2 / 2p coin unique but you need a good quality / strength one, others believe this is achieved with a shell but I'm not so sure.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby JammyT » Nov 14th, '11, 15:32

BigShot wrote:Just for the record, Dynamo's "Matrix" illusions is not new and is not "Dynamo's" either.
There's a human statue I've seen doing that (and doing a better, more convincing job of it too, I might add) for a fair while now and if I had to guess, I think that's where Bradford's golden boy probably got the idea from.


The 'Lean' has been around for a long time (even before Michael Jackson) this is an old Clown gag that is very difficult to trace back to a specific origin it is sold as a stage gimmick by Doug Malloy.

The Muscle suspension gimmick is credited to Danny Cole (I'm sure previous variations exist) he has a patent on it.

Permission was given to Cyril Takayama to use it (not market or release it) it has since been ripped off by a Taiwanese Magi who goes by the name of Rex.

As far as I know this joke of a magician (Rex) is the only one to sell it commercially. Needless to say I wouldn't recomment even looking into his version.

If you are really willing to do a bit of homework a little birdy tells me to check out Genii Magazine Volume 45 #8 (Aug 1981) ???

EDIT: apologies that is only for 'the lean'

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby JammyT » Nov 14th, '11, 15:48

Bert Easley was my father, who died in 1987. He was a very successful performer in vaudeville in the 1930′s, and later in the ’40s in night clubs and cabarets. “The Lean” was the climax of a ten minute routine of an inebriated magician (although he never could have performed the act had he actually been drunk). He was billed as “The Tipsy Trickster”. My father told me he learned the secret of the lean from an old circus clown, who had used the effect in the 1920′s.

He retired as an active traveling performer in 1947 to open EASLEY’S FUN SHOP, a popular magic, costume and novelty shop in Phoenix, AZ.

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taken from an old forum arguing over who came up with the lean (quite amusing) some people actually think Michael Jackson came up with it

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby Mandrake » Nov 14th, '11, 16:09

I can remember seeing the late Dickie Henderson doing the lean as part of his stage act; he used it to perform some very exaggerated golf swings as part of a comedy routine about showbiz golfers.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby BigShot » Nov 14th, '11, 16:30

Haha - it's not the only thing Michael Jackson "invented".

Human beatboxing, "the moonwalk" (better knowns as the "backslide") and others I can't recall right now are on the list too.

I must admit I'm not up to speed on the different leaning levitations and what the different ones are called. I didn't mean to make it sound like the human statue I've seen had invented whatever suspension it is that Dynamo is using, sorry if I gave that impression.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby JammyT » Nov 14th, '11, 16:35

BigShot wrote:Haha - it's not the only thing Michael Jackson "invented".

Human beatboxing, "the moonwalk" (better knowns as the "backslide") and others I can't recall right now are on the list too.

I must admit I'm not up to speed on the different leaning levitations and what the different ones are called. I didn't mean to make it sound like the human statue I've seen had invented whatever suspension it is that Dynamo is using, sorry if I gave that impression.


I wasn't correcting you - just thought people might like to know a bit more about it's origin i

similar effects can be traced back as early as 1800's

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby JammyT » Nov 14th, '11, 16:45

Mandrake wrote:I can remember seeing the late Dickie Henderson doing the lean as part of his stage act; he used it to perform some very exaggerated golf swings as part of a comedy routine about showbiz golfers.


As is the comedian / entertainer?

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby Mandrake » Nov 14th, '11, 17:31

Yup that's the feller! More accurately Dickie Henderson Jr as his father, Dick Henderson was also in showbiz as a music hall entertainer. He must have made a few quid because Dickie Jr was educated privately in Hollywood and London. One YT clip of Dickie's act (before radio mics!) where the guy on the microphone cable rewind is new and unhelpful is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQDwVxX4oQY" target="_blank" target="_blank

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby bmat » Nov 14th, '11, 18:48

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Are you talking about the rising card or haunted deck? Two different animals, (sort of) neither is unique. In both effects the card jumping out of the deck so you can catch it does not really apply. If you want the seclected card to actually jump out of the deck then I would recomend learning the sleights that allow you do to this, a variety of methods can usually be found in any book or DVD on flourishes. And again, nothing unique about them.

There is also a great non-gimmicked version of coin under watch. The one I use was shown to me so I'm not sure if it is in print anymore. But really it is pretty standard stuff, just a little gutsy.

I have nothing against gimmicks, but for the effects you mention I'm not sure gimmicks are the way to go.

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Re: Does anyone know how to assemble the Matrix Levitation?

Postby The4thCircle » Nov 14th, '11, 19:51

I probably won't be the only person thinking that if you're trying to achieve wizardry on a tight budget, a couple of good books will serve you far better than a coin gimmick or fancy thread.

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