Favourite method for controlling card ?

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby Jing » Jan 2nd, '12, 19:21



I like a double undercut, simple, and does the job well.
As others have said, I use other controls if the routine needs it.

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby molesworth » Jan 2nd, '12, 19:21

Lawrence wrote:[

I can see your point of course, I'm just yet be in a situation where a pass would work better than just simply making eye contact with your spectator and doing a cut.


Oh, you've seen me do my pass :(

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby molesworth » Jan 2nd, '12, 19:25

Seriously though, if you want/need to create the illusion that the card is in the middle of the deck, nothing beats a pass if you ask me.

To the spec, their card is replaced and the cards are squared.

I think, in most instances, this is better than:

Their card is replaced, the magician then shuffles/cuts/undercuts/does something with the cards.

Making the control invisible with a cull, sidesteal, pass or whatever, to me, makes most effects cleaner than a shuffle. All lay people know magicians can do trick shuffles, so that's what I imagine they would think whenever a magician shuffles a deck.

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby Lawrence » Jan 3rd, '12, 10:49

molesworth wrote:Seriously though, if you want/need to create the illusion that the card is in the middle of the deck, nothing beats a pass if you ask me.


How about a DL? :wink:

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby magicarp » Jan 3rd, '12, 19:20

i think the criteror for favourite has go to be what you enjoy the most. For me that is the classic pass by a mile, after months of wrestling with the b*astard thing i've finally got it fast, smooth and silent enough to be confident using, and its soooo satisfying doing it right under their noses, i always think there's a good feeling of 'getting away with it' that you dont get with a lot of moves. I have it on good authority that its even better for the t*p ch**ge, but i havent got that one down yet.

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby Pickman » Jan 3rd, '12, 21:01

The classic pass is probably the 'purest' way of achieving this but it isn't a move all magicians are comfortable with. I sometimes use the mock pass, which is really easy to do and with the right misdirection, very effective.

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby Heckler » Jan 4th, '12, 09:53

Pickman wrote:This is my one hundredth post, do I get a prize? :wink:


When you reach a hundred posts Mark Lewis comes around to your house and spanks you with a dove pan.

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby Pickman » Jan 4th, '12, 12:37

I dread to think what happens when I reach my one thousandth! :D

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Re: Favourite method for controlling card ?

Postby daleshrimpton » Jan 4th, '12, 13:26

The one single most usefull sleight i use, is the ovette master move,( a.k.a the Kelly bottom placement)

it looks like this.....

The cards are shuffled by the spectator, the performer now dribbles them one at a time. The spectator says stop.. and that card is looked at.
The cards are now squared up, with the chosen card still in the centre of the deck.
Any number of things can now be done by the performer.
The card can be peeked at... it can be palmed away, folded, and produced elsewhere,( Using the same move by the way)
The deck can be shown to any spectator, who names the chosen card straight away....( as i found out in a drunken state on new years eve) :)

If i do the effect above, I then use a half pass to clean up the deck. This is never seen because the trick is over. :)

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